Hi Jonathan and Maia,

There seems to be some confusion about what Don was asking.

If a dance progresses at the end of the B2, then Jonathan's advise is the
standard advise-- give the band an odd number with the couple out at the
top.  But that's not what Don was asking about.  He was asking, if a dance
progresses in the middle of the dance, say, at the end of the A2, when do
you decide to end it?  With a couple still out at the top?  Or do you end
it when that couple has come back in, keeping in mind that they might come
back in only for a couple of moves and be disappointed when the dance
suddenly ends?

I don't really have any answer as far as a mnemonic device goes.  I do
think it's not necessarily a great idea in all circumstances to give an
even number to the band when the dance progresses in the A-- what if it
progresses at the end of A1, for instance?  I'd then call it the same way
as a dance that progresses in the B2, unless the band is willing to be
extra special and play a third B part the final time through.  So, in other
words, I'm not sure that it's worthwhile to try to think of a mnemonic
device.  Instead, on those less common dances that progress some time other
than at the end of B2, maybe just put a note in where you want to signal
the band and for an even or odd number of times through?

-Dave

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Jonathan Sivier <[email protected]>wrote:

> On 1/14/2013 4:22 PM, Yoyo Zhou wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Don Veino <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm wondering whether someone has developed a simple accurate mnemonic
>>> for
>>>
>>
>>   Thinking about this, I think it's easier to watch what's going on.
>> You can usually identify a point in the dance - say, the start of B2,
>> which is also conveniently when you want to signal the band - when you
>> prefer that everyone at the top is active (this is the goal, right?).
>> If a couple is out, give an odd number. If they're in, give an even
>> number.
>>
>
>    In general you should talk to the band and see what they prefer in the
> way of a signal for when to finish.
>
>    The most common method in my experience, when calling a single
> progression, 32 bar dance with a tune played AABB, is to wait until a
> couple is out at the top of the set and then signal the band during the
> B-part, B1 or B2, that there will be one more time through the dance. This
> generally means that they should play to the end of this time through the
> AABB and then repeat the whole thing one more time.  If the progression
> does happen at an odd time in the dance, or it's double or triple
> progression, you may need to adjust this, or it may happen that a couple
> will pop out just before the music ends, but for 99% of the contra dances
> out there this will work fine.
>
>    If the band wants to be notified prior to 2 more times through, then
> give the signal when there isn't a couple out, and as mentioned about 3
> more times means to give the signal when there is someone out.
>
> Jonathan
>
>
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