The way I do this is watch what is going on in the dance in the B2 part - when you get to the point it would be a good place to stop - tell the band 2 more times - that way you don't have to worry about where the progression is or anything else in the structure.
As we near the end I also look for a graceful way to create a partner swing. If I find one - fine. If it would be awkward - let it go. Mac ________________________________ From: Perry Shafran <[email protected]> To: Caller's discussion list <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [Callers] Progression and "Going Out" My view is that if you want to end the dance with everyone in at the top, then the best time to signal is during the B2, regardless of when the progression is. Even if there is no one out at the top, odd if there is a couple out. On the surface it might be tricky for a mid-dance progression, but if you make your call right at the end of the B2, you can see who's on the floor and you'll know. Perry ________________________________ From: Dave Casserly <[email protected]> To: Caller's discussion list <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 6:01 PM Subject: Re: [Callers] Progression and "Going Out" Hi Jonathan and Maia, There seems to be some confusion about what Don was asking. If a dance progresses at the end of the B2, then Jonathan's advise is the standard advise-- give the band an odd number with the couple out at the top. But that's not what Don was asking about. He was asking, if a dance progresses in the middle of the dance, say, at the end of the A2, when do you decide to end it? With a couple still out at the top? Or do you end it when that couple has come back in, keeping in mind that they might come back in only for a couple of moves and be disappointed when the dance suddenly ends? I don't really have any answer as far as a mnemonic device goes. I do think it's not necessarily a great idea in all circumstances to give an even number to the band when the dance progresses in the A-- what if it progresses at the end of A1, for instance? I'd then call it the same way as a dance that progresses in the B2, unless the band is willing to be extra special and play a third B part the final time through. So, in other words, I'm not sure that it's worthwhile to try to think of a mnemonic device. Instead, on those less common dances that progress some time other than at the end of B2, maybe just put a note in where you want to signal the band and for an even or odd number of times through? -Dave On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 5:33 PM, Jonathan Sivier <[email protected]>wrote: > On 1/14/2013 4:22 PM, Yoyo Zhou wrote: > >> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Don Veino <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> I'm wondering whether someone has developed a simple accurate mnemonic >>> for >>> >> >> Thinking about this, I think it's easier to watch what's going on. >> You can usually identify a point in the dance - say, the start of B2, >> which is also conveniently when you want to signal the band - when you >> prefer that everyone at the top is active (this is the goal, right?). >> If a couple is out, give an odd number. If they're in, give an even >> number. >> > > In general you should talk to the band and see what they prefer in the > way of a signal for when to finish. > > The most common method in my experience, when calling a single > progression, 32 bar dance with a tune played AABB, is to wait until a > couple is out at the top of the set and then signal the band during the > B-part, B1 or B2, that there will be one more time through the dance. This > generally means that they should play to the end of this time through the > AABB and then repeat the whole thing one more time. If the progression > does happen at an odd time in the dance, or it's double or triple > progression, you may need to adjust this, or it may happen that a couple > will pop out just before the music ends, but for 99% of the contra dances > out there this will work fine. > > If the band wants to be notified prior to 2 more times through, then > give the signal when there isn't a couple out, and as mentioned about 3 > more times means to give the signal when there is someone out. > > Jonathan > > > ______________________________**_________________ > Callers mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.sharedweight.net/**mailman/listinfo/callers<http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers> > -- David Casserly (cell) 781 258-2761 _______________________________________________ Callers mailing list [email protected] http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers _______________________________________________ Callers mailing list [email protected] http://www.sharedweight.net/mailman/listinfo/callers
