For Erik Weberg's explanation of the timing of the hey in Joyride as he originally intended it and still prefers it, see his comments at
http://www.kluberg.com/eriksdances.html#Joyride Erik writes: ... I've recently been teaching this dance the way I initially intended it; with the fifth change of the hey and then the swing in the B1 part of the dance. I've found that as I get better at teaching it, it has become easier to convince dancers to suspend their hurry in getting to the next figure during the A parts. As dancers relax into the flow they seem to enjoy it more, and saving that last crossing by the gents until the B1 seems to enhance the joy. I think Erik's suggested timing is perfectly fine. I also think I may now understand the variation that Lindsay is suggesting. Lindsay, would the following be an accurate description? A2. Gents pull partners to gent's side and two-hand turn (cw), ending with dancers lined up across the set thus: M2> <W2 W1> <M1 [where top of set is at top of screen]. That is, women are back to back in the middle, facing out and men are on the outside facing in, all facing partners. (8 counts for all that) Partners start full hey for four by pulling past each other by R shoulders out of the two-hand turn. B1. Finish the hey. (16 counts altogether for the hey, ending half-way through B2) Partners swing (on M's original side of the set). (8) If so, I agree with Alan that the action in A1 is interesting and also that it's enough different from the distinctive transition in Joyride that a dance incorporating it should have a different name. --Jim