Greg,
I am afraid I fine it ironic at the very least, for you  to call for a more
civil discourse. Your tone has been so denigrating and disrespectful of
others for so long that I too have been ignoring your posts pretty
regularly. That is easy enough.  But when I read that a caller as well
established as Martha Wild has not posted for a long time because of the
treatment she received from you on this list, I am much more worried.  Far
from encouraging an open exchange this is evidence that you have stifled it.
As I remember it, folks posting here have tried to point this out to you
several times in the past. 
Moderators,
I propose that Greg not be allowed to post here for perhaps a month. I do
not take such a step lightly and rather than suppressing free speech, this
would encourge it.
Rickey Holt

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Greg McKenzie
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 3:28 PM
To: Caller's discussion list
Subject: Re: [Callers] A Call For Civility

Lindsay wrote:

> Well, you might want to walk this one back, then:
>
> >> "The dancers in your video look like a competent group of regulars 
> >> who
> are
> >> able to adapt to poorly-structured calls quickly and graciously. 
> >> I'm
> sure
> >> they have a lot of practice at it. I find it very productive to be 
> >> more diligent in my own calling."
>

Alright.  I only watched part of the first video.  I didn't really note who
the caller was.  And I certainly didn't mention any caller.  (The names of
the callers were inserted into my post by a subsequent poster.  I never
mentioned them.)  I was trying to make the point that this was a group of
regular contra dancers, with few, if any, first-timers in the crowd.  Since
there are no callers I know of who use structured calls regularly it is a
sure bet that these folks have had lots of experience interpreting
unstructured calls.

I seldom call for such experienced groups.  Consequently I use structured
calls more than most callers do to maintain the confidence of newcomers.  I
should have been more clear in my post, and I should have anticipated that
some folks might take it personally.  I'm sorry about that.  As a policy I
try to avoid taking anything posted here personally unless it has my name on
it.

- Greg McKenzie
West Coast, USA
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