In trying to figure out how this would work, I guess I need to stop thinking of
1st or 2nd corners in ECD, since most of those are proper dances, to using the
terminology in contra, since most dances are improper. I'm trying to figure
out how it would work for proper dances. And then for becket dances (though I
can see that not being too difficult).
And then there is contra corners, where 1st and 2nd corners have completely
different meanings. In that case we would need to differentiate between a
"corner" and a "contra corner". I ran into this when calling a contra dance
with 1st and 2nd corners (Centennial Reel) recently.
Perry
From: Bob Morgan via Callers <[email protected]>
To: Ron Blechner <[email protected]>
Cc: Caller's discussion list <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2015 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Callers] Another approach to Gender Free calling
With regard to Ron's questions 1. Would be easily covered by 1st or 2nd corners
walk forward to a wave 2. Again can be done with reference to corners 3. Not so
familiar with these. 4. You usually only need an obvious first pass person so
not an issue I think 5. If you're facing out you turn, if you're facing across
you walk is how I call it anyway Bob
On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Ron Blechner via Callers
<[email protected]> wrote:
Andrea, how would you handle the following:1. Lines of one role/position to the
center to a wavy line, as in Trip to Lambertville, et all?2. Indication of who
walks forward / backs up in a gypsy star?3. Indication of who-leads-who, such
as in Ramsay Chase, Pedal Pushers, Jurassic Redheads, etc.4. Indication of who
is passing while calling a hey.5. Indication of who crosses, who turns in a box
circulate?6. Indication any other role/position specific move that I haven't
mentioned? Turn over right shoulder, as in Fairport Harbour? Rollaways? None of
these fall under the "most unusual figures" as you stated.Ron On Jun 1, 2015
11:59 AM, "Andrea Nettleton via Callers" <[email protected]> wrote:
In previous discussions here, on FB, and privately with organizers at Hampshire
over the last two years, I have discussed the possible use of global
terminology for gender free contra. I would contend that if used, everyone
would become more aware of the structure of dances. Only the most unusual
figures/sequences would be unable to be called. The addition of first and
second corner positions to the arsenal makes it possible for same role dancers
to also be called upon to dance together without reference to gender. Second
corners chain, or first corners allemande L 1 1/2 for example. It would have
to be agreed that this refers to those standing in those positions at that
moment. In ECD we use first and second corners to refer to the people, first
and second diagonals for the positions. But since we use diagonal to refer to
those across and over one set, this seems unhelpful. Simply corner positions
works better. I'm glad some folks are trying it out at last. I had hoped for
an opportunity myself before now.Cheers,Andrea
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On Jun 1, 2015, at 8:37 AM, Jim Hemphill via Callers
<[email protected]> wrote:
The recent discussions on this topic inspired me to try an experiment in gender
free calling. Last night I called the contra dance in St. Louis using gender
free calling without telling anyone. The experiment was a great success. I
received lots of positive feedback on the evenings dance. At the break and
after the dance I made a point to ask several dancers, some were callers as
well, if they noticed anything different or unusual about the dances or how I
taught them. One person noticed that there were more dances that included a
swing in the center for couple 2 than usual. No one I talked to noticed that
the calls and teaching were gender free. It took some extra time to construct a
fun, diverse 3 hour program, but it is certainly possible. Re-labeling the
dancers is not the only way to call gender free. If you are interested in the
program I used or the larger collection of gender free dances I chose the
program from, send me an email, [email protected]. Thanks,Jim Hemphill
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