I don't think you would ever play a random non-vetted techno track for contra, though. The DJs who get booked for these events are specifically techno contra DJs.
On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 11:59 AM jim saxe via Callers < callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > On Mar 28, 2019, at 2:39 PM, Bob via Callers < > callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > > > ... > > Live or mixed recordings? If live then it should be perfectly square > AABB. If mixed, the only thing you can count on is 8-beat phrases. ... > > Can you even count on 8-beat phrases if someone, such as a caller or a > knowledgeable DJ, hasn't vetted the tracks? > > I know practically nothing about techno music, but recordings in other > genres that aren't made for phrased dancing will not necessarily follow > strict 8-beat phrasing. For instance ... > > It's pretty common for a folk singers accompanying themselves to play a > few bars of guitar strums--and not always the same number--while trying to > remember the first line of the next verse. While I haven't gone looking > for examples, I'd be surprised if such variable inter-verse vamping didn't > sometimes appear even on studio recordings. > > In some fiddle traditions, such as southern and Quebecois, besides > straight tunes and wildly crooked tunes, there are also tunes that are > mostly straight but have an occasional odd phrase. Even medleys of > straight tunes can sometimes have some extra beats at the transitions > between tunes, as heard around 0:59 in this video: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLUyg173n_M > Yo-Yo Ma - Fiddle Medley ft. Stuart Duncan, Edgar Meyer, Chris Thile > > Line dances are mostly choreographed to music that's in multiples of 8 > beats, but exceptions are hardly unusual. Also, in order to fit recordings > that were made for listening and not specifically for dance routines, > line-dance step sheets may prescribe various irregularities in the > routines. Here are just a few of the examples a little searching turned up: > > > https://www.learn2dance4fun.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Boot-Scootin-Boogie.pdf > Boot Scootin’ Boogie > 38 count, 4 wall, beginner line dance > > > https://www.copperknob.co.uk/stepsheets/every-little-honky-tonk-ID132260.aspx > Every Little Honky Tonk > 32-count, 4 wall line dance with 12-count tag after wall 2 > > http://tinalinedancers.com/data/documents/Came-Here-To-Forget.pdf > Came Here To Forget > Description: Line Dance - 2 Wall (24ct.) - Intermediate 1 Restart, 2 > Tags > Sequence: 24, 24, Tag 1, 14cts- Restart, 24, 24, Tag 2 (6cts.), 24, > 24... > > For some other examples of music that's largely, *but not entirely*, in > chunks of 8 beats (or eight bars of triple meter), try listening to any of > these while tapping your foot or fingers and counting along: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg0kfd7kow4 > Paul McCartney - When I'm 64 > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33o32C0ogVM > Julie Andrews - My Favorite Things > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbyAZQ45uww > Nancy Sinatra - These Boots Are Made for Walkin' > > So here's my question, for those of you who are more familiar with techno > music than I am: If you play a random track not already "vetted" for > phrasing, if you find a place where there's sufficiently discernible > phrasing to establish a starting point for your "mental metronome of 8 > counts" (to quote Donna Hunt), if you use that mental metronome to carry > you through a part where phrasing is less evident, and if you then get to > another part with findable phrasing, how reliably (or not) can you expect > that the phrases will still line up with your mental eight-counts? > > --Jim > > _______________________________________________ > List Name: Callers mailing list > List Address: Callers@lists.sharedweight.net > Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/callers@lists.sharedweight.net/ >
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