But who are controlling the KRT. Chea Leang or the UN ?
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Chon Chumleas <[email protected]>wrote: > > Is this the same organization that recognized the KR all along? > > On Jan 13, 4:27 pm, Westernstarr <[email protected]> wrote: > > But why the KR Tribunal didn't charge any of them with genocide ? > > > > Have you ever asked ? > > > > On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 7:10 AM, Chon Chumleas <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > The international legal definition of the crime of genocide is found > > > in Articles II and III of the 1948 Convention on the Prevention and > > > Punishment of Genocide. > > > > > Article II describes two elements of the crime of genocide: > > > > > 1) the mental element, meaning the "intent to destroy, in whole or in > > > part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such", and > > > > > 2) the physical element which includes five acts described in sections > > > a, b, c, d and e. A crime must include both elements to be called > > > "genocide." > > > > > Article III described five punishable forms of the crime of genocide: > > > genocide; conspiracy, incitement, attempt and complicity. > > > > > If you listened to people who witness Pol Pot crime, forget about 1 to > > > 2 millions people who got killed, it matched the definition quite > > > well. Does it? > > > > > On Jan 12, 8:57 pm, Westernstarr <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Mass muder, crime against humanity. Or you an ask the UN why their > > > tribunal > > > > didn't charge Duch with genocide. > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Chon Chumleas < > [email protected] > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > If "The word Genocide in the Khmer Rouge context only arose out of > > > > > the > > > > > propanganda of the Hanoi regime", what is the better alternative? > > > > > I hope is not paradise. > > > > > > > On Jan 12, 6:07 pm, Westernstarr <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > But, > > > > > > The Allies didn't send in their people to settle in Germany > > > > > > The Allies didn't rule Germany like the way Le Duc Tho ruled > Cambodia > > > as > > > > > a > > > > > > colony ( if you only bother to listen to Bui Tin) > > > > > > The Allies tried to make the Trial of the Nazis transparent to > the > > > > > outside > > > > > > world > > > > > > The US helped reform Japan's democracy and didn't send in million > of > > > US > > > > > > citizens to settle in Japan > > > > > > The word Genocide in the Khmer Rouge context only arose out of > the > > > > > > propanganda of the Hanoi regime > > > > > > The Khmer Tribunal only charged the Gang of Five with Crime > against > > > > > humanity > > > > > > and war crime, not with genocide. Only if you go back and read > what > > > > > genocide > > > > > > is in international law. Interesting here. > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 11:57 PM, Soriya <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > The Khmers & The Germans: A Comparative Study > > > > > > > > > 1) > > > > > > > a) The Khmers: Pol Pot & the Khmer Rouge committed a genocide > > > against > > > > > > > their own people, the Cambodian people. > > > > > > > > > b) The Germans: Adolf Hitler & the Nazi did NOT commit a > genocide > > > > > > > against their own people, the German people. They committed a > > > genocide > > > > > > > against a foreign race, the Jews. > > > > > > > > > 2) > > > > > > > a) The Khmers: Pol Pot's Cambodia provoked Vietnam into the > war. > > > The > > > > > > > war between Pol Pot's Cambodia & Vietnam erupted. > > > > > > > > > b) The Germans: Adolf Hitler's Germany provoked the Allies into > the > > > > > > > war. The war between Adolf Hitler's Germany & the Allies, aka > World > > > > > > > War 2 or WW2, erupted. > > > > > > > > > 3) > > > > > > > a) The Khmers: Vietnam invaded Pol Pot's Cambodia. Pol Pot was > > > > > > > defeated by Vietnam. The Cambodian people were rescued from the > > > > > > > genocide by Vietnam. > > > > > > > > > b) The Germans: The Allies invaded Adolf Hitler's Germany. > Adolf > > > > > > > Hitler was defeated by the Allies. The Jews were rescued from > the > > > > > > > genocide by the Allies. > > > > > > > > > 4) > > > > > > > a) The Khmers: Vietnam installed a Cambodian government in > Cambodia > > > > > > > made up of Cambodians who opposed Pol Pot. > > > > > > > > > b) The Germans: The Allies installed a German government in > Germany > > > > > > > made up of Germans who opposed Adolf Hitler. > > > > > > > > > 5) > > > > > > > a) Later on Vietnam completely withdrew from Cambodia. > > > > > > > > > b) Later on The Allies completely withdrew from Germany. > > > > > > > > > 6) > > > > > > > a) The Khmers: Some Khmers claim that Pol Pot & the Khmer Rouge > > > > > > > committed the genocide because Vietnam ordered them to do so. > > > > > > > > > b) The Germans: No German no Jew has ever claimed that Adolf > Hitler > > > & > > > > > > > the Nazi committed the genocide because the Allies ordered them > to > > > do > > > > > > > so. > > > > > > > > > 7) > > > > > > > a) The Khmers: Some Khmers insult & curse Vietnam for invading > Pol > > > > > > > Pot's Cambodia, toppling Pol Pot, & rescuing the Cambodian > people > > > from > > > > > > > the genocide. > > > > > > > > > b) No German no Jew has ever insulted or cursed the Allies for > > > > > > > invading Adolf Hitler's Germany, toppling Adolf Hitler, & > rescuing > > > the > > > > > > > Jews from the genocide. > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > An Interesting Note: > > > > > > > > > The German people, who even weren't the subject of the genocide > & > > > thus > > > > > > > weren't the ones whom the allies rescued from the genocide, > have > > > never > > > > > > > insulted or cursed The Allies for defeating & toppling Adolf > > > Hitler.- > > > > > Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org" group. 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