silenfores, 
You hit the nail right  on the head when you stated that all Cambodians 
need is to take out the weeds  and sow some seeds and Cambodia will be self 
sufficient.   
Comparing to other  nations of the world, Cambodians are very lucky to have 
Cambodia as a  place called home to some 14 Millions inhabitants. Cambodia 
is one of the most productive lands in  South East Asia. 
The destructions of  Cambodia and her people in the past  few centuries 
have been manmade. Personal greed have played and continues to  play a major 
role in Cambodia’s destruction. Instead of  prudently taking care of the 
woodland, Cambodian leaders deforest their precious  forestry; instead of 
preserving fishery in Tonle Sap Lake and Rivers, Cambodian  rulers allow 
fishermen 
to catch them anarchically; instead of helping Cambodian  farmers to farm 
their own productive land, Cambodian authorities sell or lease  their fertile 
territory to foreign countries; Instead of using foreign  contributions to 
help disadvantaged Cambodians, powerful Cambodians pocket  millions to 
indulge their family members; instead of preserving national lakes  and 
waterways, 
Cambodian leaders choke them up to make rooms for unnecessary  skyscrapers, 
etc… and etc… 
I believe that if  Cambodian government and politicians put the people 
first, Cambodians would be  much better off than they are today. Cambodians 
cannot afford to have their  politicians and government officials continued to 
play with their head any more.  They have to demand full accountability from 
all sides of political ideology.  The initiative of change should start with 
each Cambodian individual with the  guidance of those who have high moral 
and ethical authority. Political leaders  must have the will to take the lead 
by stopping all the rhetoric and becoming  truthful to their members, 
followers and the entire people of Cambodia.  
Playing politics to  “fill one’s pots” is not going to derail Cambodia 
from  the abyss.  
Regards, 
=================
 
 
In a message dated 6/11/2009 10:06:47 A.M. Korea Standard Time,  
[email protected] writes:


Tomo, the leasing of Cambodia’s land to other nations raised by you  is
an indication that the Cambodia is a place to create and growth.  Such
actions are unnecessarily and will cause and unwanted effects  later
on. All they should do is to take out the weeds, sow some  seeds,
everything will be ready for harvest. The ruling government did  not
see it, they see short term monetary gain.

The natural world is  smart and intelligent when left alone. Give it
enough time it grows and  provides, and never ask for any credit in
return. Man of higher position  goes in to upset its ecological balance
and then ask those below him for  credit.

Cambodia is a poor state is not because the land is a barren  region
like some countries in the African continent, but man made.  Receiving
aid by Cambodia to patch over the top of some places is not  good
enough for itself and the donors. I cannot imagine what would  happen
if the aid is to be cut off suddenly.

The other nations can  not help Cambodia any better than giving some
aid. They can not tell the  Cambodian government to change the systems
of rulings as they do not know  its operational function levels, even
if they do know and tell them it  would still fall on deaf ears, beside
it’s none of their  business.

We have been talking about some of the processes of cause and  effect.
What’s causing the destructives and creative processes?  By
understandings the root of it fundamentals problems it will help  to
give a long term solution to this country.

At least there are  still some people like you around with healthy mind
whose is acting like an  agent little by little for a healthier
Cambodia.

Instead of applying  big forces randomly on wrong points and cause
unwanted changes, the  applying small forces on any right & weak point
will definitely cause  big changes for the better.








On Jun 11, 3:41  am, [email protected] wrote:
> Silenfores,
>
>  Land-grabbing is a major problem facing Cambodian small farmers,  
peasants
> and poor. It is horrible to have the feeling that sooner or  later your 
land
> and home will be stolen from you and there is nothing  you can do to  stop
> it. I wonder if PM Hun Sen and other  officials ever have such a  feeling 
like
> that.
>
>  During last year electoral campaign, the issue was raised and put in  
front
> of Cambodian voters. However, most voters didn't think that  it
> (land-grabbing) would happen to them. Additionally, the reasons why  they 
 didn't vote
> on this issue because they didn't belief that  the oppositions could  
solve
> this issue either.
>
>  Many felt that all politicians are the same and if the oppositions won   
the
> election, they would be more corrupt than the current  officials.  They
> believed that in Cambodian society poor people  (if elected) tend to  be 
more
> corrupt. Looking back to my  experience in dealing with many  
politicians, I
> have to agree  with the voters who thought that politicians are  more or 
less
>  the same. This is not to say that everyone is corrupt, but the  majority 
 are.
> My messages are always the same-- if you (politicians) are   corrupt, you
> cannot blame on corruption by others. You just don't have  that  moral 
authority.
>
> Some writers put the blame on the  Khmer Rouge era for the today's
> corruption and land-grabbing due to  the fact that most of land and other 
 documents
> were destroyed.  We cannot use the Khmer Rouge as the scapegoat for
> everything that  happens today. Leasing land to the neighboring countries 
and to   the
> Gulf States for farming is a new problem and the government of  both
> countries cannot practice forced evictions in the name of  economic 
development
> just to please a few greedy investors (at the  expense of poor and 
powerless
> Cambodians.)
>
>  Regards,
>
> ========
>
> In a message dated 6/10/2009  11:50:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>
> [email protected]  writes:
>
> Timo,
>
> Good topic on stealing, I am  amazed at your facts and  findings. I hope
> your friend’s bad  experience will not demoralize him in  starting a new
> venture  somewhere else. Stealing like this is likes cancer  cells that
>  are killing their own host in which cells has to die too when  the  host
> die.
>
> Stealing is so wrong because it’s like owing  other  people money and
> materials. When people steal, it’s mean  they show lacking.  The
> practice of stealing transfer serves the  purpose ones temporarily,  but
> may cause others to loss balance  and hope in the course of  servings
> and creating more which are  good for humanity.
>
> In the  practice stealing of lands by  the government officials from the
> farmers are  they throw the  farmers off balance. In due course there
> will be less food  for  the country; consequently it increases the
> levels of  corruptions,  poverties and insecurities.
>
> Lacking is the  opposite of the ability to  create wealth and materials.
> One of  the acts of lacking is by stealing.  Those who did it would
>  automatically attract more of the same lacking to  them. Hence, no  debt
> will go unpaid. The more they steal, the more lacking  they  will be.
>
> High ranking government officials fall into this  category  too. They
> might already have a million dollars, but the  lacking mind wants  more.
> Corruptions and stealing go together  hand in hand to make good  laws
> unenforceable.
>
>  Bear in mind, there is nothing worst than seeing  small children  go
> hungry. My heart will always go out to  them.
>
>  On Jun 10, 1:27 pm, [email protected] wrote:
>
> >   During my stays in  Cambodia, I have met/interviewed with  young  men 
 and
> > women who were HS students and University students  about  their  
future.
> Most
> > of them had  minimized their hope just to work  in a factory, go   
overseas
> as
> > laborer in foreign countries or  simply  hope for government jobs so  
they
> > might land in  "kanleng  klanh" or gold mine in the departments  in 
which
>  you are
> > talking  about.
> > What scares me  the  most is not only the corruption in the  government
> >  sectors; it is also the  corruption in business  segments as well as  
in
> the whole
> > society.
> > A friend  of   mine used to own a hotel in PP but went out of business  
due
> to
> >  his  employee's dishonesty. They stole  everything ranging from  
kitchen
> > utensils,  computer  chips to bed sheets; that just to  name a few.
> Sometimes  the
> > numbers of days of occupancy in certain  rooms shrunk  (in paper) from 
one
> > week to  just 3 days. Workers   reported that financial statements were
> lost due
> > to   computer  problems. When the Hotel owner checked the computers,  no
> > chips  remained in the CPUs.
> > You are not  going to  find out who is  corrupt or not corrupt easily
>  because
> > the bribers and those who   receive bribes  (bribees?) work together as 
a
> > team. It’s the payers,  donors  and  business owners who usually pay the
> price.
> > Part  of  the problems is that most  people in Cambodian society  accept
> that
> > bribery is tolerable and it is a part  of  their life.  Government is
> still in
> > denial  that the level of corruption in   Cambodia is not bad and  that
> there is
> >  corruption in every  country  hence don't worry about it.
> > It is ashamed to say  that  in  politics, too, you will find the level 
of
> > corruption,  nepotism  and  favoritism, etc… in the same proportion in  
all
> > political  groups. When clean  politicians are  corrupt, corrupt
> politicians  are
> > clean then clean  equal corrupt.  Can you figure out that  equation?
>  Political
> > contributions given to politicians  to fight   corruption, justice and
> freedom
> > have been used to  feed  politicians,  their family members and friends.
> >  Who/what is left  to  fight this monster called corruption?
>  > Most Cambodians  have  not learned that when everyone in the  household
> steal
> > from  their own  family, only  their neighbors will get richer. No 
wonder
> why
> > Cambodia  is  shrunk to where it is today.
> >   ==============
>
> > In a message dated 6/10/2009 8:29:47 A.M.  Korea  Standard Time,
>
> > [email protected]  writes:
>
> >  Tim,Absolutely right, it’s not surprised at  all. The ruling   
government
> > lives on handout from the  donors, what do you expected  the  millions 
of
> > poor  Cambodian to live on.
>
> > The  systems over there  are  most the corrupted and unproductive. You
> >  reap  what you sow, if they don’t  sow anything over there, of   course
> > they will have nothing to  reap.
>
> >  Many  people in the cities study real hard just are looking  forward  
to
> >  get out of the country. The systems are unorganized and  offer   little
> > opportunities for the populations as  whole.
>
> > The  corrupted  beaurocrates only  interested in doing one signature  
and
> > get at least   $3,000. Someone I know wanted to help Cambodia  so he
> >  organized to import  agriculture products to sell at his  shop.  All
> > those products have to pass  about 5 signatures  which  would get him at
> > least $15,000 excluding the  cost  of buying,  containers and shipping.
> > Where can he  get the profit from? He   also has to wait four weeks to
>  > get right amount he  wants.
>
> > In the end  he  has no choice but to import from  Thailand and Vietnam.
>
>  > Everyone over  there only  interested in reaping, but not sow.  So, I 
am
> > not the least   surprised if they are  starving.
>
> > On Jun 10, 2:04 am,    [email protected] wrote:
>
> > >  Interesting!
>
> >  > Millions of  Cambodians now  are at the stage where they just  wish  
to
> have
> >  >  enough food to eat, some basic shelters  to cover their head,  
little
> > >  medication for their illness,  peace,  justice and freedom to live as
> > "frustrated
> >  >  animal."
>
> > > =======
>
> >  > In a  message  dated 6/9/2009 8:12:49 A.M. Eastern Daylight  Time,
>
> > >   [email protected]  writes:
>
> > > Man  is a frustrated   animal.  For example, the age of 15 years old, 
he
> > >  would  be  most happy if  he has $2000 to spend. How happy he  would 
be
> if
> > > he has  $50,000  to spend.  Slowly he accumulates it  at the age of 
30.
>
> > >  Let’s  make  it to $100,000  for spending spree, and he reaches  the 
age
> > >  of  40.
>
> > >  No,  it’s still not exciting enough; he wants  to  accumulate  it to
> > > $600,000. At  the age of 60 he  makes it,  but  it’s still not 
enough, he
> > > wants it    more.
>
> > > Finally  he reaches his goal and  accumulates  it to $1,000,000 at  
the
> > > age  of  80. By this time at  this age he would be too tire to enjoy
>  life
> > > and his  money is of little value to  him.
>
> > > You go  through  prep,   kindergarten, primary school, high school,
> > >    college, and university and the  end result can be    disappointing
.
>
> > > Man thinks the final end is the  most   fun,  but it’s not true. It’s
> the
> >  > journey along the ways  that  count.   Stop worrying  about this and
> that.
> > >  Enjoy life to  the  full whether you are  young or  old.
>
> > > The  world will  know how to take care and  balance itself  out.  
Look at
> > > the global  recession.  Some parts of the  world have too much  and 
many
> > > parts   have  too little.
>
> > > Although the divine do not take   away   from the rich and give it to 
the
> > > poor, it  is  reducing the surplus of  the  rich. If the poor want to 
 be
> >  > rich they have to be efficient  in  creating   something.
>
> > > The nature law   is:
>
> > >  When it’s efficient it creates  and   increases.
> > > When  it’s surplus it   reduces.
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