[Some corrections: I’m running on low energy and need to recharge. I
have too many to do sometimes.]

Timo, I’m thankful to see what you see. Able to describe the
Cambodia’s environments in details and aware of what’s going on. Those
bunches of politicians cannot live like they are not part of their
surroundings anymore. Environments are part of our extended body. If
they damage it, they damage everything else around including
themselves.

Talking about skyscrapers, why would ones indulge oneself likes
Ferdinand Marcos of the Philippines who know mainly pleasure and
little happiness in his life. He died a sad man, but cannot totally
blame him because his egoism within drives him blind. I believe it may
not be much different from the Cambodian politicians.

All Cambodians ought to be aware of that wealth creations are within
their on country, underneath their feet and within themselves if they
want to enjoy success. They don’t need to look across the globe to
find anything except all sorts of educations you can learn from.

All creations must be come from within. They have to stop dreaming
that “the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.”
It’s not wrong to think that some foreigners are richer, but they have
mastered the skills of wealth creations and sometimes without
realizing it.

Man is in some ways similar to a fruit tree except he can create
almost anything. God won’t allow him to visualize and create anything
too quickly to safeguard against harming himself.

Imagine if man has a miracle power to make anything quickly. He can
think of brand new car, and it suddenly appears in front of him. Then
the fears within him make him dream of a monster, and suddenly a
monster appears in front of him too. If a man has such a power, the
first one person he kills is probably himself.


On Jun 11, 12:47 pm, [email protected] wrote:
> silenfores,
> You hit the nail right  on the head when you stated that all Cambodians
> need is to take out the weeds  and sow some seeds and Cambodia will be self
> sufficient.
> Comparing to other  nations of the world, Cambodians are very lucky to have
> Cambodia as a  place called home to some 14 Millions inhabitants. Cambodia
> is one of the most productive lands in  South East Asia.
> The destructions of  Cambodia and her people in the past  few centuries
> have been manmade. Personal greed have played and continues to  play a major
> role in Cambodia’s destruction. Instead of  prudently taking care of the
> woodland, Cambodian leaders deforest their precious  forestry; instead of
> preserving fishery in Tonle Sap Lake and Rivers, Cambodian  rulers allow 
> fishermen
> to catch them anarchically; instead of helping Cambodian  farmers to farm
> their own productive land, Cambodian authorities sell or lease  their fertile
> territory to foreign countries; Instead of using foreign  contributions to
> help disadvantaged Cambodians, powerful Cambodians pocket  millions to
> indulge their family members; instead of preserving national lakes  and 
> waterways,
> Cambodian leaders choke them up to make rooms for unnecessary  skyscrapers,
> etc… and etc…
> I believe that if  Cambodian government and politicians put the people
> first, Cambodians would be  much better off than they are today. Cambodians
> cannot afford to have their  politicians and government officials continued to
> play with their head any more.  They have to demand full accountability from
> all sides of political ideology.  The initiative of change should start with
> each Cambodian individual with the  guidance of those who have high moral
> and ethical authority. Political leaders  must have the will to take the lead
> by stopping all the rhetoric and becoming  truthful to their members,
> followers and the entire people of Cambodia.
> Playing politics to  “fill one’s pots” is not going to derail Cambodia
> from  the abyss.
> Regards,
> =================
>
> In a message dated 6/11/2009 10:06:47 A.M. Korea Standard Time,
>
> [email protected] writes:
>
> Tomo, the leasing of Cambodia’s land to other nations raised by you  is
> an indication that the Cambodia is a place to create and growth.  Such
> actions are unnecessarily and will cause and unwanted effects  later
> on. All they should do is to take out the weeds, sow some  seeds,
> everything will be ready for harvest. The ruling government did  not
> see it, they see short term monetary gain.
>
> The natural world is  smart and intelligent when left alone. Give it
> enough time it grows and  provides, and never ask for any credit in
> return. Man of higher position  goes in to upset its ecological balance
> and then ask those below him for  credit.
>
> Cambodia is a poor state is not because the land is a barren  region
> like some countries in the African continent, but man made.  Receiving
> aid by Cambodia to patch over the top of some places is not  good
> enough for itself and the donors. I cannot imagine what would  happen
> if the aid is to be cut off suddenly.
>
> The other nations can  not help Cambodia any better than giving some
> aid. They can not tell the  Cambodian government to change the systems
> of rulings as they do not know  its operational function levels, even
> if they do know and tell them it  would still fall on deaf ears, beside
> it’s none of their  business.
>
> We have been talking about some of the processes of cause and  effect.
> What’s causing the destructives and creative processes?  By
> understandings the root of it fundamentals problems it will help  to
> give a long term solution to this country.
>
> At least there are  still some people like you around with healthy mind
> whose is acting like an  agent little by little for a healthier
> Cambodia.
>
> Instead of applying  big forces randomly on wrong points and cause
> unwanted changes, the  applying small forces on any right & weak point
> will definitely cause  big changes for the better.
>
> On Jun 11, 3:41  am, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > Silenfores,
>
> >  Land-grabbing is a major problem facing Cambodian small farmers,
> peasants
> > and poor. It is horrible to have the feeling that sooner or  later your
> land
> > and home will be stolen from you and there is nothing  you can do to  stop
> > it. I wonder if PM Hun Sen and other  officials ever have such a  feeling
> like
> > that.
>
> >  During last year electoral campaign, the issue was raised and put in
> front
> > of Cambodian voters. However, most voters didn't think that  it
> > (land-grabbing) would happen to them. Additionally, the reasons why  they
>  didn't vote
> > on this issue because they didn't belief that  the oppositions could
> solve
> > this issue either.
>
> >  Many felt that all politicians are the same and if the oppositions won
> the
> > election, they would be more corrupt than the current  officials.  They
> > believed that in Cambodian society poor people  (if elected) tend to  be
> more
> > corrupt. Looking back to my  experience in dealing with many
> politicians, I
> > have to agree  with the voters who thought that politicians are  more or
> less
> >  the same. This is not to say that everyone is corrupt, but the  majority
>  are.
> > My messages are always the same-- if you (politicians) are   corrupt, you
> > cannot blame on corruption by others. You just don't have  that  moral
> authority.
>
> > Some writers put the blame on the  Khmer Rouge era for the today's
> > corruption and land-grabbing due to  the fact that most of land and other
>  documents
> > were destroyed.  We cannot use the Khmer Rouge as the scapegoat for
> > everything that  happens today. Leasing land to the neighboring countries
> and to   the
> > Gulf States for farming is a new problem and the government of  both
> > countries cannot practice forced evictions in the name of  economic
> development
> > just to please a few greedy investors (at the  expense of poor and
> powerless
> > Cambodians.)
>
> >  Regards,
>
> > ========
>
> > In a message dated 6/10/2009  11:50:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>
> > [email protected]  writes:
>
> > Timo,
>
> > Good topic on stealing, I am  amazed at your facts and  findings. I hope
> > your friend’s bad  experience will not demoralize him in  starting a new
> > venture  somewhere else. Stealing like this is likes cancer  cells that
> >  are killing their own host in which cells has to die too when  the  host
> > die.
>
> > Stealing is so wrong because it’s like owing  other  people money and
> > materials. When people steal, it’s mean  they show lacking.  The
> > practice of stealing transfer serves the  purpose ones temporarily,  but
> > may cause others to loss balance  and hope in the course of  servings
> > and creating more which are  good for humanity.
>
> > In the  practice stealing of lands by  the government officials from the
> > farmers are  they throw the  farmers off balance. In due course there
> > will be less food  for  the country; consequently it increases the
> > levels of  corruptions,  poverties and insecurities.
>
> > Lacking is the  opposite of the ability to  create wealth and materials.
> > One of  the acts of lacking is by stealing.  Those who did it would
> >  automatically attract more of the same lacking to  them. Hence, no  debt
> > will go unpaid. The more they steal, the more lacking  they  will be.
>
> > High ranking government officials fall into this  category  too. They
> > might already have a million dollars, but the  lacking mind wants  more.
> > Corruptions and stealing go together  hand in hand to make good  laws
> > unenforceable.
>
> >  Bear in mind, there is nothing worst than seeing  small children  go
> > hungry. My heart will always go out to  them.
>
> >  On Jun 10, 1:27 pm, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > >   During my stays in  Cambodia, I have met/interviewed with  young  men
>  and
> > > women who were HS students and University students  about  their
> future.
> > Most
> > > of them had  minimized their hope just to work  in a factory, go
> overseas
> > as
> > > laborer in foreign countries or  simply  hope for government jobs so
> they
> > > might land in  "kanleng  klanh" or gold mine in the departments  in
> which
> >  you are
> > > talking  about.
> > > What scares me  the  most is not only the corruption in the  government
> > >  sectors; it is also the  corruption in business  segments as well as
> in
> > the whole
> > > society.
> > > A friend  of   mine used to own a hotel in PP but went out of business
> due
> > to
> > >  his  employee's dishonesty. They stole  everything ranging from
> kitchen
> > > utensils,  computer  chips to bed sheets; that just to  name a few.
> > Sometimes  the
> > > numbers of days of occupancy in certain  rooms shrunk  (in paper) from
> one
> > > week to  just 3 days. Workers   reported that financial statements were
> > lost due
> > > to   computer  problems. When the Hotel owner checked the computers,  no
> > > chips  remained in the CPUs.
> > > You are not  going to  find out who is  corrupt or not corrupt easily
> >  because
> > > the bribers and those who   receive bribes  (bribees?) work together as
> a
> > > team. It’s the payers,  donors  and  business owners who usually pay the
> > price.
> > > Part  of  the problems is that most  people in Cambodian society  accept
> > that
> > > bribery is tolerable and it is a part  of  their life.  Government is
> > still in
> > > denial  that the level of corruption in   Cambodia is not bad and  that
> > there is
> > >  corruption in every  country  hence don't worry about it.
> > > It is ashamed to say  that  in  politics, too, you will find the level
> of
> > > corruption,  nepotism  and  favoritism, etc… in the same proportion in
> all
> > > political  groups. When clean  politicians are  corrupt, corrupt
> > politicians  are
> > > clean then clean  equal corrupt.  Can you figure out that  equation?
>
> ...
>
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