silenfores, It looks like that every politician and powerful person in Cambodia is trying to build their personal wealth using all materials from inside a sinking ship- Cambodia. The big guys are trying to fill in their bigger treasure trunks; the smaller guys are also trying to fill up their pockets; the tiniest ones are collecting the rest. They realize that the ship will sink, but at least for the time being they are enjoying their possessions. Recharge, will you? ========== In a message dated 6/11/2009 5:56:22 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes:
[Some corrections: I’m running on low energy and need to recharge. I have too many to do sometimes.] Timo, I’m thankful to see what you see. Able to describe the Cambodia’s environments in details and aware of what’s going on. Those bunches of politicians cannot live like they are not part of their surroundings anymore. Environments are part of our extended body. If they damage it, they damage everything else around including themselves. Talking about skyscrapers, why would ones indulge oneself likes Ferdinand Marcos of the Philippines who know mainly pleasure and little happiness in his life. He died a sad man, but cannot totally blame him because his egoism within drives him blind. I believe it may not be much different from the Cambodian politicians. All Cambodians ought to be aware of that wealth creations are within their on country, underneath their feet and within themselves if they want to enjoy success. They don’t need to look across the globe to find anything except all sorts of educations you can learn from. All creations must be come from within. They have to stop dreaming that “the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.” It’s not wrong to think that some foreigners are richer, but they have mastered the skills of wealth creations and sometimes without realizing it. Man is in some ways similar to a fruit tree except he can create almost anything. God won’t allow him to visualize and create anything too quickly to safeguard against harming himself. Imagine if man has a miracle power to make anything quickly. He can think of brand new car, and it suddenly appears in front of him. Then the fears within him make him dream of a monster, and suddenly a monster appears in front of him too. If a man has such a power, the first one person he kills is probably himself. On Jun 11, 12:47 pm, [email protected] wrote: > silenfores, > You hit the nail right on the head when you stated that all Cambodians > need is to take out the weeds and sow some seeds and Cambodia will be self > sufficient. > Comparing to other nations of the world, Cambodians are very lucky to have > Cambodia as a place called home to some 14 Millions inhabitants. Cambodia > is one of the most productive lands in South East Asia. > The destructions of Cambodia and her people in the past few centuries > have been manmade. Personal greed have played and continues to play a major > role in Cambodia’s destruction. Instead of prudently taking care of the > woodland, Cambodian leaders deforest their precious forestry; instead of > preserving fishery in Tonle Sap Lake and Rivers, Cambodian rulers allow fishermen > to catch them anarchically; instead of helping Cambodian farmers to farm > their own productive land, Cambodian authorities sell or lease their fertile > territory to foreign countries; Instead of using foreign contributions to > help disadvantaged Cambodians, powerful Cambodians pocket millions to > indulge their family members; instead of preserving national lakes and waterways, > Cambodian leaders choke them up to make rooms for unnecessary skyscrapers, > etc… and etc… > I believe that if Cambodian government and politicians put the people > first, Cambodians would be much better off than they are today. Cambodians > cannot afford to have their politicians and government officials continued to > play with their head any more. They have to demand full accountability from > all sides of political ideology. The initiative of change should start with > each Cambodian individual with the guidance of those who have high moral > and ethical authority. Political leaders must have the will to take the lead > by stopping all the rhetoric and becoming truthful to their members, > followers and the entire people of Cambodia. > Playing politics to “fill one’s pots” is not going to derail Cambodia > from the abyss. > Regards, > ================= > > In a message dated 6/11/2009 10:06:47 A.M. Korea Standard Time, > > [email protected] writes: > > Tomo, the leasing of Cambodia’s land to other nations raised by you is > an indication that the Cambodia is a place to create and growth. Such > actions are unnecessarily and will cause and unwanted effects later > on. All they should do is to take out the weeds, sow some seeds, > everything will be ready for harvest. The ruling government did not > see it, they see short term monetary gain. > > The natural world is smart and intelligent when left alone. Give it > enough time it grows and provides, and never ask for any credit in > return. Man of higher position goes in to upset its ecological balance > and then ask those below him for credit. > > Cambodia is a poor state is not because the land is a barren region > like some countries in the African continent, but man made. Receiving > aid by Cambodia to patch over the top of some places is not good > enough for itself and the donors. I cannot imagine what would happen > if the aid is to be cut off suddenly. > > The other nations can not help Cambodia any better than giving some > aid. They can not tell the Cambodian government to change the systems > of rulings as they do not know its operational function levels, even > if they do know and tell them it would still fall on deaf ears, beside > it’s none of their business. > > We have been talking about some of the processes of cause and effect. > What’s causing the destructives and creative processes? By > understandings the root of it fundamentals problems it will help to > give a long term solution to this country. > > At least there are still some people like you around with healthy mind > whose is acting like an agent little by little for a healthier > Cambodia. > > Instead of applying big forces randomly on wrong points and cause > unwanted changes, the applying small forces on any right & weak point > will definitely cause big changes for the better. > > On Jun 11, 3:41 am, [email protected] wrote: > > > Silenfores, > > > Land-grabbing is a major problem facing Cambodian small farmers, > peasants > > and poor. It is horrible to have the feeling that sooner or later your > land > > and home will be stolen from you and there is nothing you can do to stop > > it. I wonder if PM Hun Sen and other officials ever have such a feeling > like > > that. > > > During last year electoral campaign, the issue was raised and put in > front > > of Cambodian voters. However, most voters didn't think that it > > (land-grabbing) would happen to them. Additionally, the reasons why they > didn't vote > > on this issue because they didn't belief that the oppositions could > solve > > this issue either. > > > Many felt that all politicians are the same and if the oppositions won > the > > election, they would be more corrupt than the current officials. They > > believed that in Cambodian society poor people (if elected) tend to be > more > > corrupt. Looking back to my experience in dealing with many > politicians, I > > have to agree with the voters who thought that politicians are more or > less > > the same. This is not to say that everyone is corrupt, but the majority > are. > > My messages are always the same-- if you (politicians) are corrupt, you > > cannot blame on corruption by others. You just don't have that moral > authority. > > > Some writers put the blame on the Khmer Rouge era for the today's > > corruption and land-grabbing due to the fact that most of land and other > documents > > were destroyed. We cannot use the Khmer Rouge as the scapegoat for > > everything that happens today. Leasing land to the neighboring countries > and to the > > Gulf States for farming is a new problem and the government of both > > countries cannot practice forced evictions in the name of economic > development > > just to please a few greedy investors (at the expense of poor and > powerless > > Cambodians.) > > > Regards, > > > ======== > > > In a message dated 6/10/2009 11:50:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > > [email protected] writes: > > > Timo, > > > Good topic on stealing, I am amazed at your facts and findings. I hope > > your friend’s bad experience will not demoralize him in starting a new > > venture somewhere else. Stealing like this is likes cancer cells that > > are killing their own host in which cells has to die too when the host > > die. > > > Stealing is so wrong because it’s like owing other people money and > > materials. When people steal, it’s mean they show lacking. The > > practice of stealing transfer serves the purpose ones temporarily, but > > may cause others to loss balance and hope in the course of servings > > and creating more which are good for humanity. > > > In the practice stealing of lands by the government officials from the > > farmers are they throw the farmers off balance. In due course there > > will be less food for the country; consequently it increases the > > levels of corruptions, poverties and insecurities. > > > Lacking is the opposite of the ability to create wealth and materials. > > One of the acts of lacking is by stealing. Those who did it would > > automatically attract more of the same lacking to them. Hence, no debt > > will go unpaid. The more they steal, the more lacking they will be. > > > High ranking government officials fall into this category too. They > > might already have a million dollars, but the lacking mind wants more. > > Corruptions and stealing go together hand in hand to make good laws > > unenforceable. > > > Bear in mind, there is nothing worst than seeing small children go > > hungry. My heart will always go out to them. > > > On Jun 10, 1:27 pm, [email protected] wrote: > > > > During my stays in Cambodia, I have met/interviewed with young men > and > > > women who were HS students and University students about their > future. > > Most > > > of them had minimized their hope just to work in a factory, go > overseas > > as > > > laborer in foreign countries or simply hope for government jobs so > they > > > might land in "kanleng klanh" or gold mine in the departments in > which > > you are > > > talking about. > > > What scares me the most is not only the corruption in the government > > > sectors; it is also the corruption in business segments as well as > in > > the whole > > > society. > > > A friend of mine used to own a hotel in PP but went out of business > due > > to > > > his employee's dishonesty. They stole everything ranging from > kitchen > > > utensils, computer chips to bed sheets; that just to name a few. > > Sometimes the > > > numbers of days of occupancy in certain rooms shrunk (in paper) from > one > > > week to just 3 days. Workers reported that financial statements were > > lost due > > > to computer problems. When the Hotel owner checked the computers, no > > > chips remained in the CPUs. > > > You are not going to find out who is corrupt or not corrupt easily > > because > > > the bribers and those who receive bribes (bribees?) work together as > a > > > team. It’s the payers, donors and business owners who usually pay the > > price. > > > Part of the problems is that most people in Cambodian society accept > > that > > > bribery is tolerable and it is a part of their life. Government is > > still in > > > denial that the level of corruption in Cambodia is not bad and that > > there is > > > corruption in every country hence don't worry about it. > > > It is ashamed to say that in politics, too, you will find the level > of > > > corruption, nepotism and favoritism, etc… in the same proportion in > all > > > political groups. When clean politicians are corrupt, corrupt > > politicians are > > > clean then clean equal corrupt. Can you figure out that equation? > > ... > > read more » **************Download the AOL Classifieds Toolbar for local deals at your fingertips. (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolclassifieds/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000004) --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org" group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. 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