On Aug 19, 12:37 pm, Khmer Young <[email protected]> wrote:
> The fact of "accepting annexation of Vietnam over Cambodia", this is
> the fact or reality of shitt
>
Look at the history. Cambodians couldn't even treat their own people.
So it may be better for the whole society.
My opinion is that Cambodia should be a part of Thailand instead.
> It is ridiculous that Hun Sen has made Cambodia as today: today on
> what? peace, security, economy, Angkor Wat and Preah Vihea and Khmer
> Rouge trial...I think you are making a joke....all these are good to
> compare with KR regime or so-called zero regime...but dare you compare
> Hun Sen regime to its long term future which base on the rule of law
> and equality?
>
My friend,
The truth is that Hun Sen has been the leadership of Cambodia, and he
lead his country to where it is today. You can't change that fact.
Could Cambodia have been better? Ofcourse, it could. However, the fact
remains the same.
> Hun Sen's power monopoly is telling us the death of Cambodia's future,
> not the survival. More than this, Hun Sen should shamelessly boost
> himself of present existence of Cambodia, many political parties
> including Paris Peace Accord that have helped Cambodia today.
>
> Cambodian people and their leaders have to accept the reality and
> fact...the reality and fact which are not shitt by praising Vietnam
> and condemning Cambodian nations like what Hun Sen recently ranted
> out.
>
> KY
>
> On Aug 19, 6:29 am, kangaroo <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Aug 19, 1:11 am, Khmer Young <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Yes, your speech is the same like Hun Sen who said Vietnamese had been
> > > in Cambodia before Jan. 1979 and American soldiers also in Cambodia
> > > etc. All this reason, Hun Sen just wanted to legitimize and justify
> > > the righteousness of Vietnamese over Cambodia. Any other leaders who
> > > accept the power of foreigner to dominate over their country?
>
> > My speech is the same as Hun Sen?
> > Perhaps, you can't contest what being told.
> > Perhaps, what being told is the truth.
> > Is that why you are turning to who I am or what I am talking now?
>
> > I don't know about you. We don't need Hun Sen to justify anything. The
> > fact is that North Vietnamese and Americans have invaded Cambodian
> > space. THIS IS THE FACT.
>
> > Hun Sen government has lead Cambodia to where it is today. Don't you
> > think that Cambodia today is far better than it had been for many
> > decades? Or are you trying to say that Cambodia should have been
> > better than what it is today? If that is the case, it still shows the
> > fact that Cambodia is where it is today under Hun Sen leadership and
> > better than it had been for many decades.
> > Sam Rainsy and his party have been crying about Cambodia should have
> > been this and that etc..... The fact is that that is just his dream.
> > He dreams Cambodia to be better. That's ok to dream. But to discredit
> > the things that someoneelse has done it is bad because they thave done
> > it, and you have not.
>
> > > Only, in Cambodia, and he is Hun Sen.
>
> > > In the meantime at the same court, Sam Rainsy didn't mention any one
> > > name but Hun Sen could sue and lift his immunity in that time....why
> > > this same court treated differently?
>
> > > Simple answer: because Hun Sen is too powerful as his power is
> > > omnipotent...don't need to talk about litigation...
>
> > > KY
>
> > > On Aug 17, 5:36 am, kangaroo <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > On Aug 14, 1:36 pm, Khmer Young <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > I have never said that those CPP's members and leaders are Vietnam. My
> > > > > searching found that current Cambodia situation is like Lao's. If you
> > > > > can give me proof that Lao is not under Vietnam and Lao is
> > > > > independent, we can use that case to study our Cambodia. But if you
> > > > > found that Lao is not free from Vietnam, Cambodia is in the same
> > > > > trajectory.
>
> > > > Now let us assume that Cambodia is under the influence of Vietnam.
> > > > What does it tell you?
> > > > Do you know that Sihanouk was a close friend of North Vietnamese
> > > > leader?
> > > > There are two things that you can come out of it if the scenerio is
> > > > true.
> > > > First, we then know that they use Vietnam to influence their own
> > > > country with their own hands. Am I correct so far.
> > > > Second, what kind of people would use other country influence to
> > > > destroy their own nation. If the scenerio is true, Cambodians are very
> > > > stupid.
>
> > > > > Hun Sen is going to silence and intimidate all Cambodians through this
> > > > > lawsuit with Mu. You can justify and use any excuse to fool Cambodian
> > > > > people through that biased media in Cambodia, but you can not fool us
> > > > > here.
>
> > > > Let us not believe what Hun Sen said or accuse anyone for now.
> > > > Let us just take a look at the real evidence that can be admittend in
> > > > court.
> > > > First, Mu deployed her lawsuit against Hun Sen by using Hun Sen's
> > > > words. In his context, there is no clear indication that he targetted
> > > > Mu. The majority of the people know he targetted Mu. That is just a
> > > > hearsay. It is not a real evidence. Unfortunately, Mu went ahead and
> > > > use it. That was why the court was able to dismiss her lawsuit. It may
> > > > not be fair. Yet, the court could do that. No one can challenge that.
> > > > Mu indicated clearly that she was going to file lawsuit against Hun
> > > > Sen. She said it in her press conference prior to her filing. Hun Sen
> > > > used it to countersuit her with that real evidence. The court accepted
> > > > it. The court has the right to do that.
> > > > So the difference between the two lawsuits is the real evidence. Mu
> > > > didn't have any evidence to support her claim while Hun Sen had a
> > > > clear real evidence before hands.
>
> > > > > Mu had sufficient evidence to sue Hun Sen. Hun Sen's speech was
> > > > > explicitly referring to Mu who is the representative in Kompot. Hun
> > > > > Sen's speech was sexy and pejorative towards woman like Mu, and it was
> > > > > directly to the deep sensivity of all Khmers who respect and value
> > > > > women regarding their fame and dignity particularly the word of bra
> > > > > and cheoung klang.
>
> > > > Please use your judicial judgement to listen to the language.
> > > > Mu didn't have any real evidence to support her claim.
> > > > Most of us know fully that Hun Sen targetted Mu in his speech. Yet, it
> > > > doesn't indicate clearly to be a real evidence.
> > > > Sentiment or feelings are not real evidence. They are hearsay. They
> > > > must be supported by other evidence to be admittent to court.
> > > > You can talk about respect, value etc.... They are true part of a
> > > > society. Yet, they are not real evidence. You cannot accuse someone
> > > > because you feel intimidated. You can't sue someone because other
> > > > people feel that he was embarrassing me. That's not how the court
> > > > works.
>
> > > > > The broadcasting of Hun Sen's speech is a strong grounded proof to
> > > > > judge Hun Sen. Mu's press conference can not be a proof for Hun Sen to
> > > > > countersue her. This is the reality for Hun Sen. But as we know, the
> > > > > courageous and popular MP like Mu has been in Hun Sen's chess game to
> > > > > eliminate her. So Hun Sen picked this game to play with her. Insulted
> > > > > her without naming her in order to destroy her. All Cambodian people
> > > > > and Cambodian women are paying sympathy towards Mu who fall into Hun
> > > > > Sen's chess game.
>
> > > > You probably are trying to bulstering yourself to be right. I am sorry
> > > > you are wrong. Listen to Hun Sen speech again and again to see what
> > > > you can come out. Listen to Mu's press conference to see what you can
> > > > get out of it.
> > > > You are blinding yourself because you want Mu to be a victim. You have
> > > > to justify it. Mu must justify it.
> > > > Today, she has already realized the mistakes that she had made. Her
> > > > miscalculation took her to a loosing ground. That's why she is in
> > > > America today. She knows that she had lost everything.
>
> > > > Hun Sen and his CPP may have a play in mind against their opposition.
> > > > Yet, it's not a right thing for any opposition to open themself to
> > > > loose. Mu fought a battle that she could not win. I am sorry. Mu is
> > > > an idiot who tried to make something out of nothing.- Hide quoted text -
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