The truth is that under current leadership of Hun Sen is easily fragile...
On Aug 19, 5:58 pm, kangaroo <[email protected]> wrote: > On Aug 19, 12:37 pm, Khmer Young <[email protected]> wrote: > > > The fact of "accepting annexation of Vietnam over Cambodia", this is > > the fact or reality of shitt > > Look at the history. Cambodians couldn't even treat their own people. > So it may be better for the whole society. > My opinion is that Cambodia should be a part of Thailand instead. > > > It is ridiculous that Hun Sen has made Cambodia as today: today on > > what? peace, security, economy, Angkor Wat and Preah Vihea and Khmer > > Rouge trial...I think you are making a joke....all these are good to > > compare with KR regime or so-called zero regime...but dare you compare > > Hun Sen regime to its long term future which base on the rule of law > > and equality? > > My friend, > The truth is that Hun Sen has been the leadership of Cambodia, and he > lead his country to where it is today. You can't change that fact. > Could Cambodia have been better? Ofcourse, it could. However, the fact > remains the same. > > > Hun Sen's power monopoly is telling us the death of Cambodia's future, > > not the survival. More than this, Hun Sen should shamelessly boost > > himself of present existence of Cambodia, many political parties > > including Paris Peace Accord that have helped Cambodia today. > > > Cambodian people and their leaders have to accept the reality and > > fact...the reality and fact which are not shitt by praising Vietnam > > and condemning Cambodian nations like what Hun Sen recently ranted > > out. > > > KY > > > On Aug 19, 6:29 am, kangaroo <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Aug 19, 1:11 am, Khmer Young <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Yes, your speech is the same like Hun Sen who said Vietnamese had been > > > > in Cambodia before Jan. 1979 and American soldiers also in Cambodia > > > > etc. All this reason, Hun Sen just wanted to legitimize and justify > > > > the righteousness of Vietnamese over Cambodia. Any other leaders who > > > > accept the power of foreigner to dominate over their country? > > > > My speech is the same as Hun Sen? > > > Perhaps, you can't contest what being told. > > > Perhaps, what being told is the truth. > > > Is that why you are turning to who I am or what I am talking now? > > > > I don't know about you. We don't need Hun Sen to justify anything. The > > > fact is that North Vietnamese and Americans have invaded Cambodian > > > space. THIS IS THE FACT. > > > > Hun Sen government has lead Cambodia to where it is today. Don't you > > > think that Cambodia today is far better than it had been for many > > > decades? Or are you trying to say that Cambodia should have been > > > better than what it is today? If that is the case, it still shows the > > > fact that Cambodia is where it is today under Hun Sen leadership and > > > better than it had been for many decades. > > > Sam Rainsy and his party have been crying about Cambodia should have > > > been this and that etc..... The fact is that that is just his dream. > > > He dreams Cambodia to be better. That's ok to dream. But to discredit > > > the things that someoneelse has done it is bad because they thave done > > > it, and you have not. > > > > > Only, in Cambodia, and he is Hun Sen. > > > > > In the meantime at the same court, Sam Rainsy didn't mention any one > > > > name but Hun Sen could sue and lift his immunity in that time....why > > > > this same court treated differently? > > > > > Simple answer: because Hun Sen is too powerful as his power is > > > > omnipotent...don't need to talk about litigation... > > > > > KY > > > > > On Aug 17, 5:36 am, kangaroo <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > On Aug 14, 1:36 pm, Khmer Young <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > I have never said that those CPP's members and leaders are Vietnam. > > > > > > My > > > > > > searching found that current Cambodia situation is like Lao's. If > > > > > > you > > > > > > can give me proof that Lao is not under Vietnam and Lao is > > > > > > independent, we can use that case to study our Cambodia. But if you > > > > > > found that Lao is not free from Vietnam, Cambodia is in the same > > > > > > trajectory. > > > > > > Now let us assume that Cambodia is under the influence of Vietnam. > > > > > What does it tell you? > > > > > Do you know that Sihanouk was a close friend of North Vietnamese > > > > > leader? > > > > > There are two things that you can come out of it if the scenerio is > > > > > true. > > > > > First, we then know that they use Vietnam to influence their own > > > > > country with their own hands. Am I correct so far. > > > > > Second, what kind of people would use other country influence to > > > > > destroy their own nation. If the scenerio is true, Cambodians are very > > > > > stupid. > > > > > > > Hun Sen is going to silence and intimidate all Cambodians through > > > > > > this > > > > > > lawsuit with Mu. You can justify and use any excuse to fool > > > > > > Cambodian > > > > > > people through that biased media in Cambodia, but you can not fool > > > > > > us > > > > > > here. > > > > > > Let us not believe what Hun Sen said or accuse anyone for now. > > > > > Let us just take a look at the real evidence that can be admittend in > > > > > court. > > > > > First, Mu deployed her lawsuit against Hun Sen by using Hun Sen's > > > > > words. In his context, there is no clear indication that he targetted > > > > > Mu. The majority of the people know he targetted Mu. That is just a > > > > > hearsay. It is not a real evidence. Unfortunately, Mu went ahead and > > > > > use it. That was why the court was able to dismiss her lawsuit. It may > > > > > not be fair. Yet, the court could do that. No one can challenge that. > > > > > Mu indicated clearly that she was going to file lawsuit against Hun > > > > > Sen. She said it in her press conference prior to her filing. Hun Sen > > > > > used it to countersuit her with that real evidence. The court accepted > > > > > it. The court has the right to do that. > > > > > So the difference between the two lawsuits is the real evidence. Mu > > > > > didn't have any evidence to support her claim while Hun Sen had a > > > > > clear real evidence before hands. > > > > > > > Mu had sufficient evidence to sue Hun Sen. Hun Sen's speech was > > > > > > explicitly referring to Mu who is the representative in Kompot. Hun > > > > > > Sen's speech was sexy and pejorative towards woman like Mu, and it > > > > > > was > > > > > > directly to the deep sensivity of all Khmers who respect and value > > > > > > women regarding their fame and dignity particularly the word of bra > > > > > > and cheoung klang. > > > > > > Please use your judicial judgement to listen to the language. > > > > > Mu didn't have any real evidence to support her claim. > > > > > Most of us know fully that Hun Sen targetted Mu in his speech. Yet, it > > > > > doesn't indicate clearly to be a real evidence. > > > > > Sentiment or feelings are not real evidence. They are hearsay. They > > > > > must be supported by other evidence to be admittent to court. > > > > > You can talk about respect, value etc.... They are true part of a > > > > > society. Yet, they are not real evidence. You cannot accuse someone > > > > > because you feel intimidated. You can't sue someone because other > > > > > people feel that he was embarrassing me. That's not how the court > > > > > works. > > > > > > > The broadcasting of Hun Sen's speech is a strong grounded proof to > > > > > > judge Hun Sen. Mu's press conference can not be a proof for Hun Sen > > > > > > to > > > > > > countersue her. This is the reality for Hun Sen. But as we know, the > > > > > > courageous and popular MP like Mu has been in Hun Sen's chess game > > > > > > to > > > > > > eliminate her. So Hun Sen picked this game to play with her. > > > > > > Insulted > > > > > > her without naming her in order to destroy her. All Cambodian people > > > > > > and Cambodian women are paying sympathy towards Mu who fall into Hun > > > > > > Sen's chess game. > > > > > > You probably are trying to bulstering yourself to be right. I am sorry > > > > > you are wrong. Listen to Hun Sen speech again and again to see what > > > > > you can come out. Listen to Mu's press conference to see what you can > > > > > get out of it. > > > > > You are blinding yourself because you want Mu to be a victim. You have > > > > > to justify it. Mu must justify it. > > > > > Today, she has already realized the mistakes that she had made. Her > > > > > miscalculation took her to a loosing ground. That's why she is in > > > > > America today. She knows that she had lost everything. > > > > > > Hun Sen and his CPP may have a play in mind against their opposition. > > > > > Yet, it's not a right thing for any opposition to open themself to > > > > > loose. Mu fought a battle that she could not win. I am sorry. Mu is > > > > > an idiot who tried to make something out of nothing.- Hide quoted > > > > > text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org" group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. 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