C'est étonnant que ces étudiants qui se prétend ceux de l'UH et qu
i,
semble-t-il, prennent le parti de CPP pour être sympatisants avec de
s idées,
je dis non progressistes.
krakmo
-----Message d'origine-----
De : [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] De
la part
de Heng Sombat
Envoyé : samedi 9 janvier 2010 21:08
À : [email protected]
Objet : RE: My Letter to the Phnom Penh Post
Sophan,
The CSALOHA website is very outdated
(http://www2.hawaii.edu/~csaloha/officers.html). I do not think any
of the
information on the site are correct. You need to update it or take
the site
down. False information via internet or posted on the internet is
also a
crime.
Per my information with the East West Center, you are no longer a
student
there. Plus you have sent many articles about Cambodian-Canadian's
activities which only proof that you are currently residing in Canada.
There is not much to read into your article. Your intention is not
to help
Cambodia or her people. Question: Have you even hold a job that
produced
normal income and paid income-tax since you live here, US or
Canada? If
not, you have no idea what is democracy is. So please do not preach
democracy to others. From your resume, you have been a professional
student
and monk most of your adult life.
Per my conversation with my friend Sok in Hawaii, your short term in
Hawaii
during your monk hood was fulfill with sins. Let me relate (one
issue) to
you and to our audience that wish to know more about you, since you
wanted
others to know about you as well. Correct me if my information is
incorrect, but I have no doubt about what I am about to share.
During your study at University of Hawaii you were living in a co-ed
University housing that was provided by East West Center (funded by
American
tax payers). This mean that you were sharing your domicile with young
college girls. This alone violated Buddhism practice already. Most
of the
young girls in these days covered their body with less and less
garments,
especially when they are in their domiciles. I will stop here on
this issue
and let you and the audience of CAMDIS takes it from here.
I have more to share, if you want me to go on! Trust me.
Here is my suggestion. Stop attacking and putting down Cambodian
people and
her government via Phnom Penh Post. Posting article via Phnom Post
will be
read by mostly foreigners, in Phnom Penh and aboard, your article
will only
stack more mud on the Cambodian people. This government is not
perfect. If
you care, let's help Cambodian people by helping the government to
improve
their mean and way of doing government businesses. Let's start with
solidarity first. Solidarity is the most effective way to
consolidate power
and fight the enemy of all kinds; foreign and domestic. Keep in
mind that
democracy does not happen overnight. It took US and Canada over 200
years
for their democracies and still not 100% perfect. Do not forget
that your
well being here in US or Canada is the result of the current
government
policy.
Here I go again......You must learn how to give back, not just
take. Or
giving back is not what you believe in? Stop taking from an little
old lady
like the one you did in Hawaii. She gave you so much of what she
had; she
had to collect cans and saved portion of her SS incomes to
contribute to
your Buddhism preach, because she trusted you as a true monk.
I am going to stop here and hoping that you are able to start giving
back
with your heart.
Heng Sombat
Irvine, Ca
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf
Of sophan
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 4:59
To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org
Subject: Re: My Letter to the Phnom Penh Post
Hi Heng Sombat and Kangkaroo;
Some info you claimed is correct, but major of them is wrong about me.
If you want to know me more, go to these links.
http://www2.hawaii.edu/~csaloha/officers.html
or
http://www2.hawaii.edu/~sophan/
I am not affiliated with any political parties inside or outside of
Cambodia. I am currently a student of UH, and community facilitator.
My letter to the Phnom Penh Post has fairly articulated to bring
benefits to
all sides especially the collective interests of the nation.
Please re-read my article again and again before you assume to reply
this or
that.
PS: I am an individual of UH's student. I am not representing all
students
in this University including Cambodian students studying there, like
many
other writers who revealed their places such as Phnom Penh,
California or
others, surely not represent everyone there.
Regards,
S.
On Jan 7, 10:33 pm, Heng Sombat <[email protected]> wrote:
Hello Kararoo,
Your points are very straight and very much appreciated. The
author
of this letter to Phnom Penh Post has no practical logic or merit
behind his article. He just wanted his name to be read in Phnom Penh
Post.
Sam Rainsy's actions in the last 15 years are very questionable. I
have the opportunity to meet Rainsy when he was the Minister of
Finance and after he got kicked out of the government. He knows how
to use less fortunate people for his personal gain. Just like Koy
Pech in
the 1971, Lon Nol Era.
Students died from his actions.
Now let's look at this author character and purpose of his writing
this article, so we could analyst his intention. I started out by
contacting my fellow friend (let's call him Sok) at Hawaii University
at Manoa Campus to verify who is this Sophan Seng really is.
Here is what I found out.
1. Sophan was a student at UH and had moved back to Canada since
2009.
2. He was a monk from Cambodia via Canada before moved to Hawaii. On
top of it, he did served his monk hood properly.
In the body of his article he expressed the wrong doing of the HS
government, but fail to understand the responsibility of the Rainsy
as MP.
MP is just a law maker not a law enforcer. What authority does MP
has
to act as POLICE. Rainsy's action only create division among our
people, but fail to promote solidarity. His actions only make us
Khmer
weak.
If you talk about corruption, let's us ash how Rainsy live with his
MP
salary. Someone is paying for his living cost plus traveling in and
out of Cambodia whenever he wishes to travel.
I suggest that Sophon think twice before he writes again about the HS
government. HS is not perfect, but the best government we had in the
last 100 years. We all able to get higher education and freedom to
express our opinion more than previous governments. Freedom of speech
has come a long way. But please keep freedom of speech within
limitation.
Let's look at our previous government: Sihanouk's government
fail.......
Lon Nol's government fail...... Pol Pot's government fail to year
ZERO. I guess Sophan wants to live year Zero again.
One more note for Sophon, if you are not with UH or speaking on
behalf of UH, please do not sign on behalf of UH, because your
article
to Phnom Penh Post created concern for UH Cambodian Students in
Hawaii. Not all students in UH approved your statement.
Heng Sombat
Irvine, Ca
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf
Of sopha
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 5:56 AM
To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.org
Subject: Re: My Letter to the Phnom Penh Post
On Jan 7, 2:28 am, kangaroo <[email protected]> wrote:
Reading your article “Three more sought in removal of post at
Svay
Rieng border” (January 4) broke my heart.
The villagers should be congratulated and taken care of by the
government for their courage in publicly claiming their ownership
of the rice paddies and denouncing the violation of their
territory by Vietnamese authorities who have mismanaged the
process of demarcating the border. Instead, as unbelievable as it
may sound, these five farmers face a terrifying fate and the loss
of their status
as “good” citizens.
Look at their acts. They have done something on their own hands
along with Sam Rainsy. Did they do the right thing?
Look at it yourself. A small group of people disagree with border
demarkation along with their leader, Sam Rainsy. They acted
illegally whether you like it or not. They did a wrong thing.
Actually, they did it to demonstarte their disagreement with the
government.
Be serious about it. Doing a wrong thing to correct a wrong thing
would never work. Sam Rainsy and that small group of people did just
that. Now they are facing their consequences.
Oh ask those people this. They did it along with Sam Rainsy in that
village. Now, they all are in trouble including Sam Rainsy. WHERE IS
SAM RAINSY TODAY?
How about those people in the group? Where are they today?
It is good to hear from you. Why all Cambodian people have trouble?
There have been different interpretations of this story within the
media, but at the end of the day, no one can deny the truth:
Cambodian people living along the borders with Thailand, Laos and
Vietnam no longer dare voice their concerns about neighbouring
countries encroaching on their territory and stealing their land
for
fear of reprisals.
No one can say that Cambodian neighbors have not moved into
Cambodian territory. However, there is an agreement between
Cambodian government and Vietnamese government on this demarkation.
We will never find the demarkation to please everyone. So what is
the best result. The two countries have to work it out. Until then
the
people will struggle.
I think Cambodia has had agreement with all neighbors including Preah
Vihear.
On one hand, the government may have good reason to accuse
opposition leader Sam Rainsy of acting as a provocateur in
bringing news of Vietnam’s mismanagement of border posts to the
public. But on the other hand, the government is following a
course of action that could rob Cambodia of its strength as a
nation and destroy the
immunity of every parliamentarian.
My friend,
Sam Rainsy lead that small group of people to rise against the
decision of his own government. What do you think that the
government would do? Let us say that Sam Rainsy is the prime
minister of Cambodia today. What would he do if Hun Sen did like
that?
Is prime minister Sam Rainsy going to ignore the illegal act against
his government?
Good point but what kind of decision? Any participation from the pp
and NGOs?
At the grassroots level, Cambodian people living along the border
will no longer dare to stand up and protest against the theft of
their land by neighbouring countries. At the national level,
parliamentarians – both government and opposition – will lose
confidence in their abilities to serve the genuine interests of
the
people.
They cannot stand up for their right. The government cannot please
all of those people at once. Nor the government can find a solution
to make them happy on both side. There is no way. The agreement
between Vietnam and Cambodia is set a fire storm. Some are happy and
some are not. The government has no position to win on this
position. That's honest. Don't tell me that prime minister Sam
Rainsy would do any better. This situation has no winning in sight.
That might be called agreement of self-suicide or dividing Khmers.
Why
Khmers are dividing?
The government must evaluate the situation fairly if it is to
effecctively represent the nation’s interests. I would like to
appeal to the government to restore the prowess of elected
parliamentarians and allow them to fulfil their duties, which are
more important than those of the lower court of Svay Rieng. I
would also like to appeal to the government to drop all charges
against the five farmers – Prak Chea, Neang Phally, Prak Koeun,
Meas Srey and
Prom Chea – and release them without condition.
Sam Rainsy is dead. He acted on his own hands against his own
government in his own country. He created that opportunity for those
who hate him to be able to destroy him. He miscalculated his act.
Actually, he is a stupid leader to act like that.
Sophan Seng
University of Hawaii
And what does it make you to be since you have studied in the
University of Hawaii?
Are you smarter than others?
Are you always right since you are a student of an American
university?
By the way, are you living in Cambodia as a real Cambodian?
Where are you living? What is your real name? I am feeling
intimidated
by your message and sharp argument. If you are really loving Khmer
nation, let show our real intention to the issue on how to solve the
problem. We can walk together to help Cambodia. Let I know you
personally or in this forum, so we can pursue our collective goal. No
Khmers are marginalized, we all are Khmers.
S.
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