AS THE RESULTS ?
THIS IS THE MAN Gen. Van Tien Dung WHO Led
an INVASION OF CAMBODIA DECEMBER 25 ,1978.
Gen. Van Tien Dung, launch an invasion of Cambodia.
Dec. 25, 1978 Invasion of Cambodia. Some 100,000 Vietnamese with 20,000 KUFNS
troops, under the direction of Gen. Van Tien Dung, launch an invasion of
Cambodia.
IT WAS CONDEMNED BY THE UNITED NATIONS.
Oct. 21, 1986 The UN General Assembly adopted a resolution A/RES/41/6, by vote
of 116-21 with 13 abstentions, calling for a withdrawal of Vietnamese
AS THE RESULTS OF VIETNAM INVASION & OCCUPATION BY THE TROOPS OF GENERAL VAN
TIEN DUNG THAT INVADED CAMBODIA ON 25 DECEMBER 1978.
AS THE RESULTS ?
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Left to right: Heng Samrin, Chea
Sim and Hung Sen (Photo: Sovannara, RFI)
IT WAS CONDEMNED BY THE UNITED NATIONS.
Oct. 21, 1986 The UN General Assembly adopted a resolution A/RES/41/6, by vote
of 116-21 with 13 abstentions, calling for a withdrawal of Vietnamese
> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 11:09:40 -0800
> Subject: Re: My Letter to the Phnom Penh Post
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
>
> No, Cambodians have been attacking each other for a very long time.
> Actually, they have been killing each other so they can win to
> suppress their own people. They even went so far to bring Cambodia to
> ground just to fulfill their thirst of power.
> Character manipulation has no place in a good and decent society.
>
> On Jan 9, 6:41 pm, Heng Sombat <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Rabbit News,
> >
> > A person charactor has a lot to do with his statement. If this
> > person a joker, a trouble maker and a free-loader the he has no
> > ground of making advising or making any remarks.
> >
> > Your statement have been fair and I have respected it soon far.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Jan 9, 2010, at 2:02 PM, kangaroo <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > What does his personal affair have anything to do with what we discuss
> > > here?
> > > Are you trying to say that he should not do anything with Cambodians
> > > as long as he has done something that people don't like?
> > > Let us say that people have given him money intending to advance his
> > > religious endeavor, and he did not do what he said.
> > > He went to get married and returned etc.....
> > > It sounds like that that money had conditions. You can bring a civil
> > > lawsuit against him if he didn't abide by the condition. As far as we
> > > can see, he didn't have any conditions attached to the money.
> > > So it comes to the freedom. He can do whatever he wants. You may not
> > > like it. Yet, that's what he wants.
> > > That's called freedom.
> >
> > > On Jan 9, 3:31 pm, Savouth Chea <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> Aloha,
> >
> > >> As aWhat does his personal matter have anything to do with what we
> > >> d resident of Hawaii, which Sophan Seng claims he represents, I
> > >> wanted to
> > >> share my observations, thoughts, and also questions about his
> > >> motives.
> > >> Unfortunately, I didn't like what I saw of him, and I only foresee
> > >> further
> > >> disruption.
> >
> > >> Sophan Seng came to Hawaii to further his education back in 2006.
> > >> The first
> > >> time he set foot in Hawaii, I introduced him to some Cambodian
> > >> community
> > >> members since he was a Khmer new to the island. Some knew his
> > >> background
> > >> from the past and had their opinions (good but mostly bad), but I
> > >> tried not
> > >> to take people's word for it. As months progressed, however, I
> > >> came to see
> > >> that the warnings I had heard were true. First, he used the Buddhist
> > >> religion to advance himself rather than becoming a monk selflessly in
> > >> dedication to Buddha. How do I know this? While attending the
> > >> University
> > >> of Hawaii, he lived in a co-educational dormitory. One may think
> > >> this is
> > >> not a big deal nowadays, but should a monk put himself in the
> > >> company and
> > >> living quarters of females? Is this appropriate? He often
> > >> flirted with
> > >> young female members of our community and made inappropriate
> > >> comments -
> > >> causing some of our youth and their parents to become very upset!
> > >> He was
> > >> affiliated with a so-called ‘temple’ in Hawaii, and performed
> > >> Buddhist
> > >> ceremonies. That was reasonable because he was a monk, right? But
> > >> in 2009,
> > >> he visited Cambodia from Hawaii, ostensibly still a monk, but came
> > >> back to
> > >> the United States only a couple of months later with a wife! Prior
> > >> to his
> > >> trip back to Cambodia, he told members of the community in Hawaii
> > >> that he
> > >> was going there to represent and gain support for the temple and the
> > >> Buddhist religion. The ‘temple committee’ gave him $400, and s
> > >> ome
> > >> individual people also gave him money, since he was a monk and/or
> > >> student.
> > >> Poor him, right? When he came back with a wife, people were
> > >> shocked. Did
> > >> he care? Apparently not. He did not attempt to explain himself nor
> > >> apologize for using the monies to go back to Cambodia to get
> > >> married. No,
> > >> he used religion for personal gain. Sad but true.
> >
> > >> To people that do not know him, Sophan Seng represents himself as a
> > >> ‘community facilitator.’ To be a facilitator, ideally one has to
> > >> be
> > >> neutral, or at least try to maintain neutrality. Instead, he openly
> > >> expresses his opinion about Cambodian politics. In fact, even as a
> > >> monk,
> > >> whose studies are supposed to focus on learning and internalizing
> > >> Buddhist
> > >> principles and the path to peace, he chose to pursue a degree in
> > >> *political
> > >> science*. Most if not all of the articles he has written to the
> > >> Phnom Penh
> > >> Post (PPP) discuss politics. At the close of each of his articles,
> > >> he
> > >> signed "Sophan Seng, University Hawaii at Manoa, United States," or
> > >> "Cambodian Students of Aloha" (the University's student
> > >> organization).
> > >> This might indicate that his opinions echo those of other Khmer
> > >> at the
> > >> University of Hawaii. They do not. Again, he is not representing
> > >> the
> > >> university, Khmer in Hawaii, or the United States of America. He
> > >> used these
> > >> closures to make himself look good with outside parties. Not all
> > >> Khmer in
> > >> Hawaii (or elsewhere in the United States) agree with him.
> >
> > >> In his previous correspondence, Sophan stated, “If you want to kno
> > >> w me more,
> > >> go to these links.” The links he
> > >> provided,http://www2.hawaii.edu/~csaloha/officers.htmlandhttp://www2.hawaii.ed...
> > >> n/, are links that were self-created -- using
> > >> the university- related resources (originally created for the use
> > >> of the
> > >> student group as a whole) for personal gain, again. Was the
> > >> information he
> > >> put on the site approved by the majority of the students in the
> > >> organization? Has anyone else affiliated with the CSAloha used
> > >> this site
> > >> for personal boasting? No. Not even the founders, myself or Mr.
> > >> Chanthoeun
> > >> To, ever considered using this site to toot our own horns. The
> > >> purpose of
> > >> CSAloha, ‘…does not represent any political or religious
> > >> ideologies both
> > >> on/off campus.’ Yet he used the university-based name/group to s
> > >> end
> > >> articles about politics to PPP and other media. Like Mr. Heng Sombat
> > >> mentioned in his email, ‘He just wanted his name to be read in Phn
> > >> om Penh
> > >> Post.’
> >
> > >> Most of the articles he wrote to the PPP from Hawaii attacked the
> > >> current
> > >> Cambodian government and sided with opposition political parties.
> > >> Hmmm . .
> > >> . Sophan, when you were in Cambodia, did you write any articles to
> > >> the PPP?
> > >> Or did you simply enjoy yourself there and then come back to the
> > >> safety of
> > >> the U.S. to criticize Cambodia? Why attack the government of your
> > >> own
> > >> country? Do you just use your country for personal gain as well?
> > >> Samdech
> > >> Hun Sen has been a Prime Minister for years. He lives in Cambodia
> > >> most of
> > >> his life, unlike Mr. Sam Rainsy. When problems arise in the country,
> > >> Samdech Hun Sen is still there. How about Mr. Sam Rainsy? He
> > >> leaves the
> > >> country when problems come up. Then, his students and his
> > >> followers pay
> > >> the price since they can’t leave the country like him. Now, I am
> > >> not
> > >> affiliated with any political party in Cambodia. I am simply
> > >> noting that
> > >> you only support a given official or bureaucrat when it suits you.
> > >> Perhaps
> > >> it is easier to get an American scholarship if you are attacking a
> > >> socialist
> > >> country leader rather than supporting him? Sophan, why try to
> > >> divide the
> > >> country instead of uniting it? Are you using your Canadian and US
> > >> bases to
> > >> get asylum to live abroad permanently??
> >
> > >> Your articles to the PPP do not help the current issues in Cambodia;
> > >> instead, you are dividing the government and her people. Before
> > >> you decide
> > >> to sound off your opinion again, you should take a look at yourself
> > >> in the
> > >> mirror again and think about whether you are helping Cambodia with
> > >> your
> > >> words and actions, or, by pretending to be some sort of expert from
> > >> the
> > >> safety of your current North American address, making things worse
> > >> for the
> > >> people of our motherland.
> >
> > >> Savouth Chea
> >
> > >> Honolulu, Hawaii
> >
> > >>> -----Message d'origine-----
> > >>> De : [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] De
> > >>> la part
> > >>> de Heng Sombat
> > >>> Envoyé : samedi 9 janvier 2010 21:08
> > >>> À : [email protected]
> > >>> Objet : RE: My Letter to the Phnom Penh Post
> >
> > >>> Sophan,
> >
> > >>> The CSALOHA website is very outdated
> > >>> (http://www2.hawaii.edu/~csaloha/officers.html). I do not think
> > >>> any of
> > >>> the
> > >>> information on the site are correct. You need to update it or take
> > >>> the site
> > >>> down. False information via internet or posted on the internet is
> > >>> also a
> > >>> crime.
> >
> > >>> Per my information with the East West Center, you are no longer a
> > >>> student
> > >>> there. Plus you have sent many articles about Cambodian-Canadian's
> > >>> activities which only proof that you are currently residing in
> > >>> Canada.
> >
> > >>> There is not much to read into your article. Your intention is
> > >>> not to help
> > >>> Cambodia or her people. Question: Have you even hold a job that
> > >>> produced
> > >>> normal income and paid income-tax since you live here, US or
> > >>> Canada? If
> > >>> not, you have no idea what is democracy is. So please do not preach
> > >>> democracy to others. From your resume, you have been a professional
> > >>> student
> > >>> and monk most of your adult life.
> >
> > >>> Per my conversation with my friend Sok in Hawaii, your short term
> > >>> in Hawaii
> > >>> during your monk hood was fulfill with sins. Let me relate (one
> > >>> issue) to
> > >>> you and to our audience that wish to know more about you, since
> > >>> you wanted
> > >>> others to know about you as well. Correct me if my information is
> > >>> incorrect, but I have no doubt about what I am about to share.
> >
> > >>> During your study at University of Hawaii you were living in a co-ed
> > >>> University housing that was provided by East West Center (funded by
> > >>> American
> > >>> tax payers). This mean that you were sharing your domicile with
> > >>> young
> > >>> college girls. This alone violated Buddhism practice already.
> > >>> Most of the
> > >>> young girls in these days covered their body with less and less
> > >>> garments,
> > >>> especially when they are in their domiciles. I will stop here on
> > >>> this issue
> > >>> and let you and the audience of CAMDIS takes it from here.
> >
> > >>> I have more to share, if you want me to go on! Trust me.
> >
> > >>> Here is
> >
> > ...
> >
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