*Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense*
*(Lord Buddha)* *To work and live in harmony we all have to respect one another.* *No one person is better than the other.* *Apply our Buddhist fundamental philosophy that we need to have* *Compassion, Meta and Karuna toward other people.* *We all should speak the truth and don't take side. Listen the* *Story from both sides and make impartial decision for the benefit of* *Everyone.* *Open communications, put personnel issues aside and openly discuss* *The issues. Take comments from other people as a construction* *Criticism and contemplate on them to see if they are valid.* ** On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Heng Sombat <[email protected]> wrote: > > KY.... I will not argue with you here. I came in contact in person with SS > only one time, but enough to know his rudeness. Please understand that I do > not have hatred for any person, only disappointed in someone like SS that > trash Buddhism and use his orange robe for personal gain. > > Thank you for your point of view in Buddhism and your naïve young age. > Your > time will come. Speculative, Hypocritical, Gullible?? That is your call. > > > Sombat > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of Khmer Young > Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 8:29 AM > To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org > Subject: Re: Re : My Letter to the Phnom Penh Post > > Dear Mr.Sombat, > > How can you claim that you know Sophan well or better than everyone > else? Are you sleeping with Sophan? Though wife and husband who are > sleeping together and have many children, they both still cannot > understand each other for sure. > > Your old age and your writing expression exhibit your naive. I think > you are more speculative and hypocritical more than telling the real > thing. Or at least, you are gullible to the people in Hawaii who has > had hatred towards Sophan. > > I follow all messages and writings here, and I have to jump down here > to protect Buddhism. > - First, you didn't know the disciplines of the Buddhist monks, why > dare you state that? As I know, Buddha encouraged every one to learn > all sciences/subjects including political science. Nothing wrong with > the monk who desire to learn economic, social and political science. > - The real temple is not red-roofed one like Rattakiri mentioned, the > real temple is inside your heart. > > I think you are old in age but not old in brain because your > assumption is based on other, not your internal conscience and > wisdom. > > Please forgive me for any outraging speech here. > > KY > > On Jan 25, 2:28 am, Heng Sombat <[email protected]> wrote: > > Mr. Rattanakiri (if this is your real name??) > > > > For your information, I am not poor. I just looks old and poor when I > > visited the so called temple in Honolulu in 2007, because I just finished > my > > hiking that day. > > > > Oh yes, I do have proof before I made any statements about this so call > > monk. I have no hatred toward any good Buddhist. > > > > You came defense this person without knowing the real facts. People from > > Hawaii provided me documents about this person when he first wrote about > > Cambodia politic to Phnom Penh Post. A monk study political science???? > A > > monk??? Political science?.........does it make any senses? > > > > Oh... boy do I have. I have done some researches about this person when > I > > visited Hawaii, due to his miss steps in Buddhist practice. > > > > My question to you, do you know this person? If not, please keep out of > > this conversation. He has brought bad name to Cambodian monks and you > > should stop supporting bad monks. > > > > Sombat. > > > > ----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf > > > > Of rattanakiri > > Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 1:20 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: Re : My Letter to the Phnom Penh Post > > > > as a buddhist, you should know being poor and ugly is because of your > > bad karma you did in the past. You should start as a good buddhist, > > by not repeating the same bad karma like accusing people of wrong doing > > without any proof or because your bias, and hatred. > > > > Heng Sombat wrote: > > > Sophan > > > > > My name is Sombat Heng resident of Irvine California. I have > > > information of you when I visited Honolulu. I met you at the so > > > called temple. You displayed a questionable character. I know you, > > > but you not know me. You would know me because I was poor and look > old. > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On Jan 23, 2010, at 7:09 AM, sophan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> Dear Everyone; > > > > >> I don't understand why there are endless arguments and privacy attacks > > >> in here by our Khmer compatriots who have used their anonymous > > >> nickname such as thisbugone, heng sombath, pierre hendri etc. If I was > > >> not wrong, Rattanakiri is Dr. Narrankiri Tith (but please correct me). > > >> My letter to the Phnom Penh Post is not about my dorm stay or > personal/ > > >> private life. It is about part of my opinion to fully exercise our > > >> citizen rights and freedom of expression in a democratic nation. The > > >> letters are also filtered and edited by the PPP before they were > > >> published. Why do they choose this private life to argue here? Is it > > >> called privacy attacking or knowledge improvement? I want to see any > > >> possible approaches which we (Khmers) can bring productive outcomes to > > >> our community and nation rather than malicious speech. > > > > >> Otherwise, if someone wants to know what is exactly operating inside > > >> the dorm please click this link: > > >>http://www.eastwestcenter.org/about-ewc/housing/student-housing/ > > >> and don't forget to read the "Resident Conduct Code". Look at the > > >> picture and the room inside this link: > > >>http://www.eastwestcenter.org/about-ewc/housing/housing-facilities/ > > >> There are 12 floors. The 9th and 10th floor is for male students only, > > >> and the 5th and 6th floor for female only. The rests are for mix and > > >> couples. When I was a monk, I stayed in the 9th floor. During that > > >> time, many Cambodian-Americans living in Hawaii took turn to bring > > >> food and pacchai boun (four necessities) to offer to me almost every > > >> week. I am really grateful and appreciate with their Saddha > > >> (dedication) and Panna (wisdom) in Buddhism. > > > > >> Overall, I am appreciate and grateful with everyone who have expressed > > >> concerns about me in both personal life and academic study. > > > > >> Sincerely, > > > > >> Sophan > > > > >> On Jan 23, 8:54 am, Pierre Henri de Poipet <[email protected]> > > >> wrote: > > >>> It's not fine for monks to live in the dorm with females, only for > > >>> normal guys like us. > > >>> How can we party, listen to AC/DC, drink Bud, smoke, watch porn and > > >>> eat dinner or score if monks are around ? > > > > >>> Joe, from Poipet > > > > >>> ________________________________ > > >>> De : thisbugone <[email protected]> > > >>> À : [email protected] > > >>> Envoyé le : Ven 22 Janvier 2010, 16 h 57 min 45 s > > >>> Objet : Re: My Letter to the Phnom Penh Post > > > > >>> Off campus housing is not the same as the dorm. What kind of pills > > >>> are you taking while writing the email below? If one chose to be a > > >>> monk one must follows by its religion. > > > > >>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:55 PM, rattanakiri <[email protected]> > > >>> wrote: > > > > >>> I went to college once. I know these co-ed international student > > >>> dorms are like an apartment building. Everyone has his or her own > > >>> room. This is far from what you have implied. Even if he decided to > > >>> live off campus, it is the same setting. Each apartment complex is > > >>> going to females and males residence. Where do you think he should > > >>> stay? Freshmen dorm? > > > > >>>>> Heng Sombat wrote: > > > > >>>>>> Hey Rattankiri, > > > > >>>>>>> You miss the whole picture here. Monks are subjected to be a > > >>>>>>> pure person > > >>>>>>> that we all respect and trust during his period of serving his > > >>>>>>> monkship > > >>>>>>> regardless young or old. If you claim that it is fine for a > > >>>>>>> monk to live in > > >>>>>>> the same dorm with female(s), I must say that you have lost > > >>>>>>> track and you do > > >>>>>>> not have any believes in Buddhism. Or you are pretending to be > > >>>>>>> Buddhism. Or > > >>>>>>> you are an idiot just like what "thisbugone" said. Please check > > >>>>>>> with your > > >>>>>>> parents about Buddhism before you response. > > > > >>>>>>> Sombat > > > > >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > > >>>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > > >>>>>>> On Behalf > > >>>>>>> Of thisbugone > > >>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 11:23 AM > > >>>>>>> To: [email protected] > > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: My Letter to the Phnom Penh Post > > > > >>>>>>> Monk and women can stay together lol. You must be an idiot! > > > > >>>>>>> On Saturday, January 16, 2010, rattanakiri > > >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>> Some people may not realize it but speak ill of someone > > >>>>>>>> including making a > > > > >>>>> harsh and quick judgement unfairly on someone is unbecoming a > > >>>>> buddisht. Remember, Buddha teaching speak rightly only. > > > > >>>>>>>> In a poor country like Cambodia, monastery life is a way out of > > >>>>>>>> poverty > > > > >>>>> and a chance for a proper education. In fact, many celebrated > > >>>>> Khmer leaders > > >>>>>>> and scholars owed their career to their days in as a monk. I > > >>>>>>> think not any > > >>>>>>> Cambodians would be shocked if a monk rejoins his civilian > > >>>>>>> life. Cambodian > > >>>>>>> buddhists offer money, food to monks in order to receive good > > >>>>>>> karma, > > >>>>>>> blessing. Should the monks refund the money, foods back if he > > >>>>>>> returns to > > >>>>>>> civilian life. Would you expect the monk perform a return of > > >>>>>>> good karma, > > >>>>>>> blessing back to heaven from those people? Give me a break. > > > > >>>>>>>> Savouth Chea wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>>> Aloha, > > > > >>>>>>>>> As a resident of Hawaii, which Sophan Seng claims he > > >>>>>>>>> represents, I wanted > > > > >>>>> to share my observations, thoughts, and also questions about his > > >>>>> motives. > > >>>>>>> Unfortunately, I didn't like what I saw of him, and I only > > >>>>>>> foresee further > > >>>>>>> disruption. > > > > >>>>>>>> Sophan Seng came to Hawaii to further his education back in > > >>>>>>>> 2006. The > > > > >>>>> first time he set foot in Hawaii, I introduced him to some > Cambodian > > >>>>>>> community members since he was a Khmer new to the island. Some > > >>>>>>> knew his > > >>>>>>> background from the past and had their opinions (good but mostly > > >>>>>>> bad), but I > > >>>>>>> tried not to take people's word for it. As months progressed, > > >>>>>>> however, I > > >>>>>>> came to see that the warnings I had heard were true. First, he > > >>>>>>> used the > > >>>>>>> Buddhist religion to advance himself rather than becoming a monk > > >>>>>>> selflessly > > >>>>>>> in dedication to Buddha. How do I know this? While attending > the > > >>>>>>> University of Hawaii, he lived in a co-educational dormitory. > > >>>>>>> One may think > > >>>>>>> this is not a big deal nowadays, but should a monk put himself > > >>>>>>> in the > > >>>>>>> company and living quarters of females? Is this appropriate? > > >>>>>>> He often > > >>>>>>> flirted with young female members of our community and made > > >>>>>>> inappropriate > > >>>>>>> comments - causing some of our youth and their parents to become > > >>>>>>> very upset! > > >>>>>>> He was affiliated with a so-called ‘temple’ in Hawaii, > > >>>>>>> and performed > > >>>>>>> Buddhist ceremonies. That was reasonable because he was a monk, > > >>>>>>> right? But > > >>>>>>> in 2009, he visited Cambodia from Hawaii, ostensibly still a > > >>>>>>> monk, but came > > >>>>>>> back to the United States only a couple of months later with a > > >>>>>>> wife! Prior > > >>>>>>> to his trip back to Cambodia, he told members of the community > > >>>>>>> in Hawaii > > >>>>>>> that he was going there to represent and gain support for the > > >>>>>>> temple and the > > >>>>>>> Buddhist religion. The ‘temple committee’ gave him $400, and > some > > >>>>>>> individual people also gave him money, since he was a monk > > >>>>>>> and/or student. > > >>>>>>> Poor him, right? When he came back with a wife, people were > > >>>>>>> shocked. Did > > >>>>>>> he care? Apparently not. He did not attempt to explain himself > > >>>>>>> nor > > >>>>>>> apologize for using the monies to go back to Cambodia to get > > >>>>>>> married. No, > > >>>>>>> he used religion for personal gain. Sad but true. > > > > >>>>>>>> To people that do not know him, Sophan Seng represents himself > > >>>>>>>> as a > > > > >>>>> ‘community facilitator.’ To be a facilitator, ideally one has to > be > > >>>>>>> neutral, or at least try to maintain neutrality. Instead, he > > >>>>>>> openly > > >>>>>>> expresses his opinion about Cambodian politics. In fact, even > > >>>>>>> as a monk, > > >>>>>>> whose > > > > ... > > > > read more » > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org" group. > This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. > Thank you for your understanding. 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