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From: "kangaroo" <[email protected]>
To: "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org" 
<[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: Arizona’s Immigrations laws and the future of 
Cambodia.




I thought that we are talking about Arizona law is legal 
or not.
Now you seem to change that and talk about the effectiveness of 
it
now.
I leave the legal thing to the lawmaker or law professor for the time being.

Well, you seem to suggest that it should not be implemented 
when
people think that it is not effective.
If you look for uneffective 
laws in the books, you would find a lot.
If you look for effectiveness, 
people should no thave laws at all
because none of the laws are really 
effective.

You are completely wrong. It is not just law, almost everything 
people make is measured
by its effectiveness. If the law doesn't work, why bother to make 
the law at the first place?

 There is always some degree of affectiveness that the lawmaker 
will have to consider before they make the law. I am not talking
about real 100% bullet proof  kind of  effective, I am talking about 
the effectiveness over the already existing immigration laws.




 

Perhaps, the laws in the hands of the people like in Cambodia 
are
better.

Don't be a smug. I didn't say anything about Cambodia. It is from
your rabbit mind.


> It also has some side effect to it. Some 
legal paper such as green card is hard to be
> replaced and some legal 
alien immigrant leave it at home or in the bank. What will the police
> do 
if that person has a small traffic violation? Will the police take driver 
license or SS card
> to determine immigration status?
> Worse than 
that and under the same circumstance that you forget to bring along your 
wallet,
> will the police throw you into the jail?
>

Do you 
know what would happen when you do not have your ID or driver's
license in 
your possession when a policeman stop you?
You are required to have it 
whenever you go anywhere.


Well, the police stopped me before when I forgot to bring along with. He only 
asked me a few questions and he found out that I
am a liar, he let me off the hook. But, not it is different. Instead of
just one small offense, you got two. And the latter will send you to
jail and stay in jail for sometime before you can prove them.
 
The same thing applies to legal 
alien. They are 
required to carry
their alien card at all time.

It is easy for you and the Governor to say that. Immigration green
card is not easy to be replaced. If you happen to loose it, it might
even take a long time to get the replacement and you can forget about
going anywhere while waiting for the replacement.

 




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--- On Wed, 5/26/10, Hong Chi Kong <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Hong Chi Kong <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Arizona’s Immigrations laws and the future of Cambodia.
To: [email protected]
Date: Wednesday, May 26, 2010, 6:17 PM

I don't think you can answer my questions. But, I want to paint a gruesome 
picture for you.
You decide to move to live in Phoenix, Arizona. You just want to go to a 
grocery store. After driving
off your driveway and at a few stop lights, a police patrol see you and you 
look like the
illegal immigrant and the police stop you and ask for your identification, You 
didn't violate
any law, but you got stop anyway because of your look. After seeing your ID,
the police let you go. A few more stop lights, you get stop again by another 
police.
Tomorrow, the same thing happen while you go to work, So, everyday, you get to 
show
your ID a few or several times. Do you think you will able to tolerate that?
Had you learn anything when you were living under the KR?


--- On Wed, 5/26/10, In Camdisc <[email protected]>
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From: In Camdisc <[email protected]>
Subject: Arizona’s Immigrations laws and the future of Cambodia.
To: "CAMDISC" <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, May 26, 2010, 1:37 PM


I am writing a short statement of concerns of the future for the safety and 
security of Cambodia . 
  
As everyone, who’s living inside the United State of America and closely follow 
the immigration reforms, and very touchy issues; both national and states level.
  
Recently, Arizona laws makers passed the immigration laws to tackle illegal 
immigrants with over 70 percent of Arizonian’s resident supports.
  
But, the Democrats and the Socialist are challenging the new laws, and called 
the new laws racist, violated human rights, etc.
  
When I am looking at Arizona ’s new immigration laws by comparing this law to 
Cambodia , and where Cambodia and her people are going to face in the near 
future. 
  
Cambodia will face the same challenges from the left wingers, the Communist, 
the Socialist and the Democrats; when Cambodia elected an independent prime 
minister and leaders who want to enforce the immigration laws for Cambodia .
  
  
Savun


      

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