Nokoreach : I am not an aveugle person as you said . I lived and I embedded with the situation from the beginning to the end . I was more Lon Nol than Lon Nol during the 70's, unfortunately I was too young had no clue what was going on during that time. Learning from the past has taught me a lots, whatever had happened should not happen . I loved Sangkum Reast Niyum period, the golden era of the kingdom after 200 years of turmoil . Keeping short, I asked you to give up your emotional hatred against the former monarch . Yes, he did wrong in certain policy during his rule, but he did the good deed to his kingdom and his people too. You must accept reality I do not want to debate with you about the anatomy of the 70's coup . Reading from American and Western informations gave me lots of knowledge about the tragic event of the country, otherwise I was condemned of being ignorant .The purpose of my response to your statement is to defend what is right and what is wrong . I agreed to certain points that you and others described, but the whole things were not true .It was to bad for Cambodian Monarchy institution did not have Western defender like Thailand . During the first coup d'etat of Thailand of 1932, Thai's Monarchy was almost destroyed, but England stood firm to defend that institution by threatening to use force against the coup plotters, then agreement was reached from absolute monarch to constitutional monarch . France was too weak to defend Cambodia monarchy, despite France effort to call for Geneva conference to restore former king back to power, but was unsuccessful, especially from American and Vietnamese sides, also Khmer Rouge leaders were delight for the good work of Lon Nol to get rid off former king from the power. Ieng Sary admitted The event in Cambodia of March 18, 1970 was a debut of kingdom catastrophy . If we learned from Thailand coup, the event would be different, but Khmer Amarts were not matured as Thai counterpart, because Khmer Amarts did not learn history, they have no clue about history, they did not even know what they were doing, emotion over reason .All universities in America were completely closed during the event in Cambodia of March 70, some student activists were killed by national guard in Kent State and Washington DC. Nokoreach did you know whatever happened in Cambodia at that time affected American policy in USA ? Did American had sympathy toward Khmer Republic leaders ? Did you read Kissinger book ? During the 80's in China Henry Kissinger had tried to have audience with former monarch to tell former king about his feeling, he admitted that he did not like Lon Nol group, but his requested was turned down.There are plenty of informations archived in American libraries relating to the event of March 70's. As I said early, no one in Khmer Republic leaders understood American policy, they only know to assume and accept without reasons .
On Sep 14, 8:42 pm, "Nokoreach" <[email protected]> wrote: > Chetrasena !!! > C'est inutile et il fait perdre du temps pour discuter > avec quelqu'un sympathisant aveuglement de tel individu. > Pour mettre fin la discussion entre vous et moi sur les > activit�s criminelles du traitre Norodom Sihanouk menant > le Cambodge et son peuple khmer � la ruine, � la guerre civile, > autorisant des troupes nord-vietnamiennes et des Viet-congs > � envahir, � d�truire le Cambodge en cendre depuis son ascen- > sion comme Chef d'�tat ill�gal � vie de 1960 � 1970. Suite de ces > lourdes cons�quences des ambitions de cet homme (Sihanouk) > notre Cambodge bien-aim� se trouve ultime aujourd'hui englouti > par des Yuons, ennemis num�ro un de notre Nation khm�re. > Veuillez donc lire et relire le communisme Yuon et Norodom > Sihanouk, et les remarques de M. Chau X�ng Ua en pdf file en > Khmer, en Anglais et en Fran�ais ci-joints. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chetrasena" <[email protected]> > To: "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.org" > > <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 6:32 PM > Subject: Re: sihanouk-viet001-06.pdf > > Nokor Reach. That is your personal opinion too . You forget this > kingdom was found and supported by the three pillars which translated > in the the three mottos, King, Relegion and Nation. Without these > three pillars, the whole kingdom would collapse as we had seen.There > has been no leader can rule the kingdom of Cambodia that lasted longed > with the absence of monarchy institution .From Lon Nol to Pol Pot, > how long they had lasted ? The country had plunged into civil war then > to genocide . Today the ruling party has played different tactics, > keep the institution and ruled differently.Who advised them to do > that, you think they like former king personally ? For the sake of > stability and prosperity on their terms, the monrachy institution must > be restored and supported . As you know the world and majority of > peace loving people are looking a big picture, the well being of the > people including peace, stability and economic prosperity , then they > can do something else . Historically, there are bad kings and good > kings like other countries around the globe. > > On Sep 14, 9:05 am, "Nokoreach" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Chetrasena !!! > > I don't agree with you. Your opinion reflects only and only on your > > personal idea, who (body and soul) serves, loves and respects blindly > > Norodom Sihanuk without reserves and without conditions. > > > Norodom Sihanuk and his all members's family ( Kings : Ang �ng, > > Ang Chan, Ang Mey, Ang B�n, Ang Duong, Norodom, Sisowath, > > Sisowath Monivong, Norodom Sihamoni, nexts...was, are and shall be > > the traitors unforgivable (unpardonable) of our beloved Cambodia > > and Khmers Peoples. > > > Please see pdf file in Khmer attached. > > Nokoreach > > Thanks, > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Chetrasena" <[email protected]> > > To: "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.org" > > > <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 10:06 PM > > Subject: Re: sihanouk-viet001-06.pdf > > > Nokor reach : That was a foreign policy of the Kingdom at that time . > > The former king was not fully aware dubious and deceit policy of his > > friend and allies . At the meantime the world was deeply engaged a > > cold war.The "tiny shitty country Cambodia" as President Nixon had > > called > > was under tremendous pressure from all sides of the conflicts .He > > attempted to maintain his kingdom to be free from the war. As you know > > on the East, South Vietnam under Diem regime was so arrogant to the > > king, by plotting coup against him, and the West Bangkok military > > regime of Sarit-Thanat Khoman and Thnom Kattikachorn were harbouring > > Khmer Serei insurgencies against him . The former king chose China to > > be his best friend forever based on proximity and non-inteference > > policy . Since the world, especially USA, USSR and China were at peak > > of cold war, the Vietnam war was played out as main focal point of > > conflicts . Defending the freedom and spreading communism were the > > policies of the superpowers,in fact Vietnam had their own intention > > and agenda, nationalism was a cause of struggle, Vietnam must be > > united . It was to bad, the kingdom of Cambodia had no good Amarts > > ( Manderins ) like the next door kingdom . All his Amarts who were > > sworn in front of Khmer ancestors turned to be his betrayers for > > example the 70's coup d'etat . Most of Khmer Republic leaders had no > > clue what they were doing, and they had no clue about American policy > > when they were abandoned, the consequence was catastrophic. On the > > other side KR was ignorant about China policy, Ieng Sary thought when > > Vietnamese troups came to Cambodia, China would send their massive > > troups to defend his regime, but miscalculated. Good and bad time, > > China always be there to support former king without China, the royal > > family would be vanished without a trace like Lao royal family . > > Today, the former king is retiring let him enjoy his last life and let > > history be the judge. > > On Sep 12, 12:01 pm, "Nokoreach" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Please see pdf file in Khmer attached. > > > Sihanouk-viet001-06.pdf (230 KB) > > > Nokoreach > > > Thanks, > > > > sihanouk-viet001-06.pdf > > > 415KViewDownload > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.org" group. > > This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. > > Thank you for your understanding. 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