Pheng Kim; If u have khmer mentality, u can say that the idea of Vietcamlao is racist one..
On Sep 14, 3:43 am, Pheng Kim Ving <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Watkeo Kuma, > > I respect your grandpa for his wisdom. As for my own (paternal) > grandpa, i never heard any wisdom from him, as he passed away when I > was a little child. When I was growing up, I learned from my dad that > my grandpa was an officer of the Cambodian military during the French > protectorate. My grandpa was of the Lon Nol's generation and was a > buddy of his (they were so intimate friends that they talked with each > other using the Khmer words "rha-eng anh"). They and a few others were > of the highest ranking Cambodian officers at that time (of course > there were higher ones, those were the French). They fought in battle > fields against the Viet Minhs. My grandpa had plenty of experience > fighting the Viet Minh guerrillas. If he had been still alive during > the 1970-1975 Cambodian war, he would have been a definite asset for > the Khmer Republic's military. > > So both your grandpa and mine fought against the communists, although > in different ways. > > Pheng Kim Ving > > On Sep 13, 9:56 am, Watkeo Kuma <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Great! > > > You accepted my grandpa’s right after 3 million death, like many other > > young at > > his generation declined of the warning signs toward Communist of Indochina. > > > WK > > > > Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 03:34:22 -0700 > > > Subject: Re: Political Analysis Today > > > From: [email protected] > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Dear Watkeo Kuma, > > > > Your grandpa was right. The communist Khmer Rouge tried to burn the > > > country named Cambodia out of the world map. They almost succeeded. > > > Thankfully they didn't. And Cambodia still exists. > > > > Pheng Kim Ving > > > > On Sep 12, 9:14 am, Watkeo Kuma <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > it remain grandpa letter in 1957 to his beloves friend in PraiyNokor > > > > > In 1957’s letter date, my grandpa wrote to his friend in Praiy Nokor > > > > about the same result as today we see Cambodia went through. His letter > > > > had turned down, and they denied the fact that bringing Communist > > > > ideology to Cambodia would be a dangerous. Most of his friends had > > > > always asked for proof against his letter and called him a liar. In > > > > 1974, he asked me to read for him again, it was sound like a FICTION to > > > > me on Khmer word that said, “ > > > > កម្មុនិស្តនាំភ្លើងមកដុតបំផ្លាញស្រុងយើងហើយ” I did not believe his > > > > message come out as the world witness today about Cambodia. His death > > > > in 1975 had passed many years now, but his messag reborn among young > > > > generation. > > > > > Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 12:22:12 +0700 > > > > Subject: Political Analysis Today > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > Political Analysis Today: A Conversation Between Khmer Young & Chetrasen > > > > For stability of the regime, there are two loose institutions that > > > > Vietnam is care the most, monarchy and Buddhist Sanghas. The > > > > collaboration of these two institutions with the ruling party helped > > > > Vietnam to achieve their plan because these institutions are still > > > > served the backbone of the kingdom. > > > > Dear Chetrasena; > > > > > I am glade to know your idea regarding this issue. What you have said > > > > is right. Of course, the discourse of Federation is in place. You, I > > > > and all Cambodian people have clearly seen that Cambodian government > > > > under Hun Sen and CPP have made a lot favor for Vietnam. and Vietnam > > > > has stepped beyond the success of Federation in encouraging Cambodian > > > > government to convict and try Khmer farmers such as Prom Chea and Meas > > > > Srey. Recently, the Cambodian court convicted Sam Rainsy, the only > > > > biggest president of opposition party, about his disinformation, > > > > insulting Cambodia-Vietnam relationship and racism. > > > > > Cambodian government has always used the excuse of strengthening the > > > > rule of law. However, this strengthening activities have happened only > > > > with the dissents and opposition activists. > > > > > Actually, Cambodian government that has trialed and convicted the > > > > farmers and opposition leader is the just the intimidation to all > > > > Cambodian people countrywide not dare to protest or expressing opinion > > > > about the fast strengthening relationship between Cambodia and > > > > Vietnam. > > > > > I absolutely agree with the author about petitioning the government of > > > > Cambodia to disclose the plan of creating federation with Vietnam in > > > > accordance to irregular treatment to Cambodian people regarding their > > > > perspective about their relationship with Vietnam. This not include the > > > > cases of Khmer Krom people. They have gradually marginalized from > > > > Cambodian people after the frequent visits of Vietnamese leaders to > > > > meeting both secular powerful men and Buddhist partriarch. > > > > > The good way to do now is the need to know from the government to > > > > publicly disclose or announce the Indochina federation advancement with > > > > Vietnam and Loa of Cambodian government under current CPP leadership. > > > > > KY > > > > > Chetrasen; > > > > ky: It is very interesting article. Majority of Cambodian people who > > > > live in the country from the poorest to the richest are happy to live > > > > in this Federation .The three countries have already been federated > > > > just a matter of time to be promulgated officially.From economic stand > > > > point about 80% of businesses are owned and operated by Vietnameses. > > > > Look at the local markets in the city of Phnom Penh such as Psar Kandal > > > > and Chbar Ampeou are exclusively controlled by Vietnamese vendors. From > > > > people to people, Cambodian people in Cambodia are living are second > > > > class of citizen. Cambodian officials in every level are care of > > > > themselves and their families. In Cambodia there is no way you can sue > > > > Vietnamese citizen, if you win you still lose. That is the price we > > > > have to pay. HRP and SRP are just the joke from the eye of > > > > Vietnam.Hanoi has invested too much in this Kingdom.Most Cambodian > > > > officials are drunken by status, wealth monies, but they ignored the > > > > future . My opinion I supported Federation, let it be sooner or later > > > > it is going to be that way whether you like or not. As I said couple > > > > years ago, I asked for unity from all khmers regardless of their > > > > affiliations for the sake of country survival, but they did not how to > > > > work together, they only know how to divide each other.Hanoi is fully > > > > aware that the serious threat to CPP is Royalist, once this > > > > organization dismantled and brought this institution to the ground, the > > > > CPP will survive and strong. To destroy Royalist party HRP and SRP were > > > > acting and harbouring CPP to achieve the mission.Look at now, it is > > > > very easy for CPP to subdue SRP . All of these are the hard work of CPP > > > > and Hanoi together . If you compare Yellow shirts and Red Shirts in > > > > Thailand, the yellow shirts are backed by institution Monarchy, the Red > > > > Shirts are born from the Red Thai who fought for long time to get rid > > > > off this institution that why their struggle are not supported by EU, > > > > USA and England, they are not the core of democratic movement, now they > > > > are labelled by the government as terrorist groups . You must > > > > understand, Hanoi right now is the best ally of USA, so the CPP and > > > > Pathet Lao, this is the policy of USA to contain China influence, and > > > > Hanoi is pleased with US help to gain couple disputed Islands. > > > > > Khmer Young; > > > > > Firstly, we have to learn to accept the reality. In Cambodia, the > > > > reality is that CPP government has made much favor for their support, > > > > the Vietnamese who helped them to power and CPP can maintain power till > > > > today. We, Cambodians, have to learn to accept the reality that > > > > Vietnam's attempt to use Khmer monarchy for their power legitimacy is > > > > successful. We, Cambodians, have to learn to accept the reality that > > > > the war has made our brothers and sisters exhausted and lost and > > > > traumatic to wake up to fight against the CPP. > > > > > Like the author of Vietcamlao debated, Cambodian people are concealed > > > > by the absence of war, nationalism of Preah Vihear Sok An has tried to > > > > create, songs and entertainment, crap Buddhist institution, > > > > sky-crappers, urban sprawling, border demarcation, lasting friendship > > > > and mutual assistance in all fields, aids and investment etc. Those > > > > things are good tools for foreign and the CPP to continuously deceive > > > > Cambodian people. > > > > > We, Cambodians, have to learn the reality that the opposition parties > > > > have been used to lie the international community. Only one way that > > > > opposition should be strong is to take monarchy away from the pocket of > > > > CPP (Viet's plan) and unify with all nationalists. Opposition cannot > > > > win Vietnam or CPP by just critics or show the wrong doing to border > > > > demarcation excuse. The CPP's court system is ready to trial all > > > > dissents in order to blind Cambodian people that they are doing to > > > > strengthening the rule of laws...the rule of law for federation? > > > > > So one way that we can do is to follow the CPP's policy such as let > > > > join with the CPP to successfully create the Indochina Federation. > > > > Cambodian people and oppositions seems have to weapons to fight against > > > > this but let all together support this trend and let negotiate with > > > > Vietnam about the rules and regulations. > > > > > So what do you think? > > > > > Chetrasen; > > > > KY : Today, the kingdom of Cambodia is moving to another world > > > > .Majority of Cambodian people in the country seems to be happy with the > > > > CPP under leadership of Somdech Maha Akka Sena Decho Hun Sen . Whether > > > > you like or not he is the one whom everybody in the world is doing > > > > business with especially American, he will meet the US President this > > > > month . Do not forget American soldiers provided training and assisting > > > > Hun Sen soldiers more than they did during the Lon Nol .That is the new > > > > era of US policy, stability and security are the main concern of USA > > > > ..Ceding land to other country, abusing power against it citizen are > > > > not American business, they are Cambodian business, there are plenty of > > > > dictators around the world .Hun Sen rules Cambodia longer than his > > > > predecessors King Sinaouk, Lon Nol and Pol Pot combined > > ... > > read more » -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org" group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. 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