What is the difference between racial hatred and dislike? Do they not have similar meanings?
On Sep 13, 3:52 am, Pheng Kim Ving <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Chetrasena, > > There's a contradiction in your article. It's between the sentence: > > "There is no racial hatred against Vietnam ." > > and the group of sentences: > > "From Cambodian side we were born with dislike attitude against the > two East > and West neighbors . Yes, historically speaking Cambodian people were > tortured by them . That why our elders left some proverbs to remind us > these two neighbors are not good, be vigilant " Siam Min Chol Khbuon > Yuon Min Chol Put " ". > > Yeah Yeah, in the past, Cambodian people were tortured by them. But > they were also tortured by Cambodian people. > > All I've said all along in CamDisc is that hatred doesn't work for > Cambodia. Do you think Cambodia can live in eternal hatred and > conflict against Vietnam and Thailand?? It's easy to say yes from a > computer room somewhere in the West or Australia or New Zealand. To > find out the truth, you should move to Cambodia and live there for 5 > or more years. > > I've also said the Khmers should be smart or intelligent or even > tricky rather than hateful. I've even said the Khmers should be "min > chau-l khbuon" or "min chau-l sni-at" (I prefer "sni-at to "putt") or > both. Do you realize that you have problems if you don't have "khbuon" > or "sni-at"?? > > Pheng Kim Ving > > On Sep 12, 3:10 pm, Chetrasena <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Gentleman. There is no racial hatred against Vietnam . Your allegation > > is completely wrong . This is an expression of opinion . People can > > express their opinion and voice their concern to a particular issue > > that mattered to him and to her . For instance, Cambodia is a > > Cambodian business . Everybody has the right to express their > > opinion . Do not misconstrue that we hate Vietnamese people . The > > Vietnamese people are wonderful, they are industrious, hardworking, > > intelligent and united . Through their history, they hated to be > > colonized .But they loved to colonize others when they see fit . From > > Cambodian side we were born with dislike attitude against the two East > > and West neighbors . Yes, historically speaking Cambodian people were > > tortured by them . That why our elders left some proverbs to remind us > > these two neighbors are not good, be vigilant " Siam Min Chol Khbuon > > Yuon Min Chol Put " > > > On Sep 12, 3:44 am, Pheng Kim Ving <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Dear Khmer Young. > > > > There's no such thing as Vietcamlao federation. Do you run out of > > > pretexts to manifest your racial hatred against Vietnam?? D'ohh!! By > > > the way, please don't be hurt when I must point out to you that your > > > English is full of spelling and grammatical errors. > > > > Pheng Kim Ving > > > > On Sep 12, 1:22 am, Khmer Young <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Political Analysis Today: A Conversation Between Khmer Young & > > > > Chetrasen<http://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2010/09/political-analysis-...> > > > > > For stability of the regime, there are two loose institutions that > > > > Vietnam > > > > is care the most, monarchy and Buddhist Sanghas. The collaboration of > > > > these > > > > two institutions with the ruling party helped Vietnam to achieve their > > > > plan > > > > because these institutions are still served the backbone of the kingdom. > > > > > Dear Chetrasena; > > > > > I am glade to know your idea regarding this issue. What you have said is > > > > right. Of course, the discourse of Federation is in place. You, I and > > > > all > > > > Cambodian people have clearly seen that Cambodian government under Hun > > > > Sen > > > > and CPP have made a lot favor for Vietnam. and Vietnam has stepped > > > > beyond > > > > the success of Federation in encouraging Cambodian government to > > > > convict and > > > > try Khmer farmers such as Prom Chea and Meas Srey. Recently, the > > > > Cambodian > > > > court convicted Sam Rainsy, the only biggest president of opposition > > > > party, > > > > about his disinformation, insulting Cambodia-Vietnam relationship and > > > > racism. > > > > > Cambodian government has always used the excuse of strengthening the > > > > rule of > > > > law. However, this strengthening activities have happened only with the > > > > dissents and opposition activists. > > > > > Actually, Cambodian government that has trialed and convicted the > > > > farmers > > > > and opposition leader is the just the intimidation to all Cambodian > > > > people > > > > countrywide not dare to protest or expressing opinion about the fast > > > > strengthening relationship between Cambodia and > > > > Vietnam. > > > > > I absolutely agree with the author about petitioning the government of > > > > Cambodia to disclose the plan of creating federation with Vietnam in > > > > accordance to irregular treatment to Cambodian people regarding their > > > > perspective about their relationship with Vietnam. This not include the > > > > cases of Khmer Krom people. They have gradually marginalized from > > > > Cambodian > > > > people after the frequent visits of Vietnamese leaders to meeting both > > > > secular powerful men and Buddhist partriarch. > > > > > The good way to do now is the need to know from the government to > > > > publicly > > > > disclose or announce the Indochina federation advancement with Vietnam > > > > and > > > > Loa of Cambodian government under current CPP leadership. > > > > KY > > > > > Chetrasen; > > > > ky: It is very interesting article. Majority of Cambodian people who > > > > live in > > > > the country from the poorest to the richest are happy to live in this > > > > Federation .The three countries have already been federated just a > > > > matter of > > > > time to be promulgated officially.From economic stand point about 80% of > > > > businesses are owned and operated by Vietnameses. Look at the local > > > > markets > > > > in the city of Phnom Penh such as Psar Kandal and Chbar Ampeou are > > > > exclusively controlled by Vietnamese vendors. From people to people, > > > > Cambodian people in Cambodia are living are second class of citizen. > > > > Cambodian officials in every level are care of themselves and their > > > > families. In Cambodia there is no way you can sue Vietnamese citizen, > > > > if you > > > > win you still lose. That is the price we have to pay. HRP and SRP are > > > > just > > > > the joke from the eye of Vietnam.Hanoi has invested too much in this > > > > Kingdom.Most Cambodian officials are drunken by status, wealth monies, > > > > but > > > > they ignored the future . My opinion I supported Federation, let it be > > > > sooner or later it is going to be that way whether you like or not. As I > > > > said couple years ago, I asked for unity from all khmers regardless of > > > > their > > > > affiliations for the sake of country survival, but they did not how to > > > > work > > > > together, they only know how to divide each other.Hanoi is fully aware > > > > that > > > > the serious threat to CPP is Royalist, once this organization > > > > dismantled and > > > > brought this institution to the ground, the CPP will survive and > > > > strong. To > > > > destroy Royalist party HRP and SRP were acting and harbouring CPP to > > > > achieve > > > > the mission.Look at now, it is very easy for CPP to subdue SRP . All of > > > > these are the hard work of CPP and Hanoi together . If you compare > > > > Yellow > > > > shirts and Red Shirts in Thailand, the yellow shirts are backed by > > > > institution Monarchy, the Red Shirts are born from the Red Thai who > > > > fought > > > > for long time to get rid off this institution that why their struggle > > > > are > > > > not supported by EU, USA and England, they are not the core of > > > > democratic > > > > movement, now they are labelled by the government as terrorist groups . > > > > You > > > > must understand, Hanoi right now is the best ally of USA, so the CPP and > > > > Pathet Lao, this is the policy of USA to contain China influence, and > > > > Hanoi > > > > is pleased with US help to gain couple disputed Islands. > > > > > Khmer Young; > > > > > Firstly, we have to learn to accept the reality. In Cambodia, the > > > > reality is > > > > that CPP government has made much favor for their support, the > > > > Vietnamese > > > > who helped them to power and CPP can maintain power till today. We, > > > > Cambodians, have to learn to accept the reality that Vietnam's attempt > > > > to > > > > use Khmer monarchy for their power legitimacy is successful. We, > > > > Cambodians, > > > > have to learn to accept the reality that the war has made our brothers > > > > and > > > > sisters exhausted and lost and traumatic to wake up to fight against the > > > > CPP. > > > > > Like the author of Vietcamlao debated, Cambodian people are concealed > > > > by the > > > > absence of war, nationalism of Preah Vihear Sok An has tried to create, > > > > songs and entertainment, crap Buddhist institution, sky-crappers, urban > > > > sprawling, border demarcation, lasting friendship and mutual assistance > > > > in > > > > all fields, aids and investment etc. Those things are good tools for > > > > foreign > > > > and the CPP to continuously deceive Cambodian people. > > > > > We, Cambodians, have to learn the reality that the opposition parties > > > > have > > > > been used to lie the international community. Only one way that > > > > opposition > > > > should be strong is to take monarchy away from the pocket of CPP (Viet's > > > > plan) and unify with all nationalists. Opposition cannot win Vietnam or > > > > CPP > > > > by just critics or show the wrong doing to border demarcation excuse. > > > > The > > > > CPP's court system is ready to trial all dissents in order to blind > > > > Cambodian people that they are doing to strengthening the rule of > > > > laws...the > > > > rule of law for federation? > > > > > So one way that we can do is to follow the CPP's policy such as let join > > > > with the CPP to successfully create the Indochina Federation. Cambodian > > > > people and oppositions seems have to weapons to fight against this but > > > > let > > > > all together support this trend and let negotiate with Vietnam about the > > > > rules and regulations. > > > > > So what do you think? > > > > > Chetrasen; > > > > KY : Today, the kingdom of Cambodia is moving to another world > > > > .Majority of > > > > Cambodian people in the country seems to be happy with the CPP under > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org" group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. 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