Thank you, Dr. Baphuon for for your reply.
But you said that NV was graded as sous-lieutenant de police at
around 1957, how? at 17 years old boy can do ?
You're Dr. 3eme cycle es Math. You should be good in logical/date and time
precision..Again thanks for your time and effort.
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 4:23 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dear Mr Vincent Thach,
>
> Vy Neal is his American passport name which was given to him by Mr Neal,
> his CIA agent handler. Neal is an American name, said the officer; with an
> American name you can get help from any US Embassy for the rapid
> evacuation. This is why I gave you the last name Neal, said the CIA
> officer.
>
> All Kanseign Sar's Presidents had several noms de guerre. I just focus
> on Chau Dara only because Neal continues to work to free Cambodia until his
> death 2012. So I had to hide his identity for security reason. The others
> had died already.
>
> On his passport he was born on 1937, but according to his sister he was
> younger, on 1940.
>
>
> His uncle is Crown treasurer of King Sihanouk. He was his uncle adoptive
> son. It was his uncle who decided to put him at the Police Academy of
> Kompong Chhnang. His uncle told him, the power though the gun barrel.
>
>
> So when he was about to finish his classe de quatrieme au College de
> Battambang, he was admitted to the Police Academy.
>
>
> Around 1957 he was graded sous-lieutenant de Police. Two/three years
> later he got three other diplomas: Agriculture de l' Ecole Prek Leap,
> Mechanical de l'Ecole des Arts et Metiers de Phnom Penh, et diplome d'
> Infirmier d' Etat, Phnom Penh. Those skills will help him to survive during
> the Khmer Rouge regime and he became very trusted among the high ranking
> Khmer Rouge leaders, Noun Chea, Ta Mok, Sar Phim etc for his know-how and
> leadership.
>
>
> During the first years of the 1960s, Nien Thean, the most powerful
> Kampot governor after a brutal dispute with him, decided to kill him. He
> escaped to Laos. There he was trained the guerrilla warfare by the Vietminh
> and a few years later he left the VM. Then he was retrained and recruited
> by the CIA to fight the Vietminh. He worked for the CIA since that time.
>
>
> When I publish the book on Kanseign Sar, I will have more space to talk
> about all that.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Baphuon.
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vincent Thach <[email protected]>
> To: camdisc <[email protected]>
> Sent: Fri, Apr 12, 2013 9:44 pm
> Subject: Re: Khmer Republic Part 2
>
> Cher Monsieur Baphuon:
>
> Thank you very much, everything relating this secret has been clear
> up in my mind.
> I felt that this is something like a title, and exactly it is.
>
> Why the second and the third presidents didn’t use this title ?
>
> Furthermore, I found something illogical in your documents
> In the message of condolence of NEAL VY, he was born in 1940. So,
> in 1950, he was just a 10 years old kid, in 1960, he was a 20 years old
> boy, and in 1970, he was a full age man. But, in the documents, CHAO DARA,
> who cannot be LN, started his activities from the 1950’s. Where did he
> receive the education … so, NEAL VY was too young to be CHAO DARA.??
> If the second and the third Presidents used also this title, it is
> explainable.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 9:14 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi KC!
>>
>> Here are the four presidents of Kanseign Sar:
>>
>> 1. Lon Nol (Chau Dara) 2. Thach Poch 3. Thach Prum Vireak and
>> 4. Neal Vy (Chau Dara).
>>
>> Chau Dara was the nom de guerre of Lon Nol as the first president of
>> Kanseign Sar.
>>
>>
>> I use Chau Dara as nom de guerre for Neal Vy in the purpose to hide
>> his real identity. Neal Vy let me use Chau Dara as his name. Sure he had
>> several noms de guerre.
>>
>>
>> Baphuon.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Khoar Chev <[email protected]>
>> To: baphuon <[email protected]>; camdisc <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thu, Apr 11, 2013 4:34 pm
>> Subject: Re: Khmer Republic Part 2
>>
>>
>> Lok Baphuon, thank you, so that was what I thought, otherwise everyone
>> would scratch their head and wonder " Geez! how could
>> a fierce KR enemy be promoted as a KR division cammander? "
>> Again, I'm getting interested to how Lok Neal Vy be able to manage to
>> fight the KR for saving the KR? Please would you give more detail? (
>> whenever you available ), also it's great if we can get to see the
>> interviews he made with the US senators.
>> BTW: last time I asked you about who was Real Chau Dara because one of my
>> Khmer Kampuchea Krom friend claimed that Chau Dara was Lon Nol, that not
>> convince me at all because I had one of my brother-in-law who followed Lon
>> Nol since I was a boy, he never mentioned about that not once, otherwise I
>> should had known it, unfortunately he was executed by the KR when they took
>> over PP, after they used him to drive the millitary GMC transport their
>> troops for a while.
>>
>> Thanks lok Baphuon again for your time sharing all interest stories.
>>
>>
>> **
>> *
>>
>> *
>>
>> *From:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 11, 2013 3:15 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: Khmer Republic Part 2
>>
>> Hi KC!
>>
>> Toward the end of Khmer Republic Part 2, Chau Dara saved 32 KR Central
>> Committee's high ranking members from the execution and free them all. They
>> were friends knowing very well each others for so long. These 32 will
>> protect Dara in return during Pol Pot regime.
>>
>>
>> Even under Vietnamese command 1980-81, Chau Dara was a division
>> commander, a division including 4000 Vietnamese soldiers to fight the KR
>> Army. He fought KR Army in order to save them (KR Army) from the
>> extinction. He saved about 40,000 KR soldiers in order to build up later
>> Khmer Resistance to fight Vietnamese Army under his command.
>>
>> US Senators interviewed Chau Dara/Neal Vy three times on that point of
>> the story.
>>
>> People told me also about a pagoda near Phnom Penh, T-28 dropped 2
>> Napalm bombs on friends forces which killed all the company 100 soldiers.
>> They asked me not to mention the guilty by name.
>>
>> Kong Chhay Hong was promoted to the grade of Major, but Hong refused
>> because he was the only one to be promoted. He would like the team should
>> be all promoted two grades more for each one of the team.
>>
>>
>> I'm not a soldier. I just learn as you all. I try to understand the
>> war, how to fight, how to win the war. I still learn from all of your
>> generation. I knew one of your promotion who was a US Delta Force member.
>> He teaches me a lot about the art of War. I learn to read Cambodia map
>> from him, the weak points and the strong points and how organize Khmer
>> Resistance and we can fight endlessly to free Cambodia from Vietnamese
>> swallow. First it is the state of mind.
>>
>>
>> Baphuon
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Khoar Chev <[email protected]>
>> To: camdisc <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Wed, Apr 10, 2013 10:16 pm
>> Subject: Re: Khmer Republic Part 2
>>
>> Lok bawng Baphuon,
>> Thank you for your contribution to our history, however I am a little
>> curious,
>> Would you please explain, how could a man like Lok Neal Vy, a
>> founder/commander
>> of the Konseng Sar, a big enemy of the KR, avoid the KR execution and
>> being a KR commander of a 50,000 troops?
>> Regard the bombardment in Battambang, one of a pilot, the same promo
>> with Kong Chay Hong said he once bombed at a convoy of what he claimed to
>> be a convoy of Illegal log of Sek Som Eath, and later he was called in
>> to see Seak Som Earth for Disciplinary, I wondered was it the friendly bomb
>> you mentioned about. This guy was a big time crooked, ChhunBury transit
>> center, Thailand, he tried to show that he still the commander, but guys
>> used to be under him did not give a damn, one time they challenged him by
>> talked trash about him in his face, they wait for him to jump on them then
>> they will punch his face but this tug just freaked out.
>> Regard Lok Kong Chay Hong, he was indeed a brave man, he was well
>> deserved a fast promotion during that time.
>> Thank you in advance,
>> KC
>> **
>> *
>>
>>
>>
>> *
>>
>> *From:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 10, 2013 11:21 AM
>> *Subject:* Khmer Republic Part 2
>>
>> Wish you all Happy New Year!
>>
>> Baphuon
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