I didn't try, so I don't know.  I'd guess it would be more like using a
safelight.  If you could get it to expose, it would be really slow.

Best,

Rick

> From: Gene Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Organization: @Home Network
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 11:27:31 -0700
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Cameramakers] industrial films
> 
> Rick,
> 
> Is it even worth trying to use an orange or red filter to try to correcr
> some of the blue sensitivity?
> 
> Gene
> 
> Rick Dingus wrote:
>> 
>> Many years ago I built a 16" X 20 " field camera and experimented with using
>> 16 " X 20" generic ortho film from Freestyle instead of regular panchromatic
>> film because it was cheap and because it looked a lot like 19th Century film
>> when processed for continuous tone.  (Blues are rendered lighter in tone,
>> reds dark, and it is so slow that you end up with time exposures even in
>> bright sunlight.)  The film manufacturers all refused to advise me, saying
>> that high contrast film was not intended for continuous tone and they
>> wouldn't guarantee the results.  But by trial and error, and months of
>> experimentation, I found a method that worked well.
>> 
>> Testing the development and exposure by printing and not by eyeballing is
>> essential because the drastic dilution changes the color of the film to a
>> muddy brown--what looks to the eye like a very flat negative actually prints
>> on photo paper with much more contrast because of the change in color, which
>> is similar to the color of a safelight.  The film speed is also extremely
>> slow, about ISO 1.5 instead of 6, because you need shadow detail if you're
>> trying to avoid high contrast.
>> 
>> Even development was another problem with such large negatives.  I settled
>> on using a Dev-Tec color print processing tube with constant rolling
>> agitation, reversing direction every 30 sec.  Keep in mind "expose for the
>> shadows, develop for the highlights" and print on photo paper to evaluate
>> exposure and contrast (minimum exposure time for maximum black of the clear
>> edges of the film).  Increased development increases contrast, decreased
>> development softens contrast.  Development is affected by:
>> 1. Time (the longer the time the more the development)
>> 2. Dilution (the stronger the concentration the faster the development)
>> 3. Agitation (the more agitation the faster the development)
>> 4. Temperature (the warmer the developer, the faster the development)
>> 
>> I ended up with something like 1/4 oz HC110 concentrate (straight from the
>> original bottle, not diluted into stock solution like Kodak recommends, in
>> 32 to 40 oz water at 70 degrees F for a development time of about 5 1/2 to 6
>> 1/2 minutes.  My students have  achieved similar results using 35mm Kodalith
>> film, resulting in 35mm negatives that are so fine grain that they almost
>> appear to be large format.
>> 
>> Try to keep your development time to 5 minutes or longer for even
>> development.  Bracket your exposures and development to find the best kind
>> of detail and contrast.  Its slow and unconventional, but it does work and
>> can create a beautifully delicate tonal range that takes full advantage of
>> all the blacks, whites and middle tones afforded by your paper if tested and
>> handled carefully.
>> 
>> Good luck.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Rick Dingus
>> 
>>> From: Gene Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Organization: @Home Network
>>> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 11:00:57 -0700
>>> To: cameramakers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Subject: [Cameramakers] industrial films
>>> 
>>> Hello Cameramakers,
>>> 
>>> I was wondering if anyone has had experience with using any of the Kodak
>>> or other large industrial films like precision line film or reproducing
>>> film in their large format cameras.  I see this stuff as surplus from
>>> time to time, and was curious about it.  I know these are generally
>>> ortho films, and I have no experience with that.  Will I be able to
>>> develop it with ordinary developers? Also, I just bought a huge roll of
>>> Aerial reproducing film, Kodak SO-192 for just about nothing.  It's 5"
>>> rollfilm and I've also just bought a 5" rollfilm back to use it with.
>>> Since there are no available tanks to develop it in, I'm hoping I can
>>> modify a multi-roll Jobo tank to allow me to develop 6 feet or so at a
>>> time. I also hope I can "reverse engineer" the back to see how hard it
>>> would be to make approximate copies.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Gene Johnson
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