Hey Mike, thanks for taking the time to respond. I can clarify some things.
I see your point of view regarding the "tabs get smaller" problem. I think this one is a tossup, and either solution might work fine. Honestly, it's not often most people have 20+ tabs open in one window. The text for toolbar bookmarks is also smaller in safari, h owever when you open a menu it the sub menu items are normal sized. this is the ideal approach for keeping toolbar size small, but menus visible. Google Bar: Any solution that requires "editing a text file" for added functionality is usually not the best solution. I suggest you take a look at firebird's approach. it's an extremely simple addition. i see why you moved import/export bookmarks now. and that isn't a bad idea. however, it belongs in the bookmarks menu one way or another. as buttons, i agree that's overkill. if you're still putting bookmarks in one big flat list, you're bookmarking must be horrificly unorganized :) i saw the light of using toolbar bookmark folders and never looked back. instead of traversing the bookmarks menu and scrolling up/down, i just click straight to the bookmarks folder i want (for example my News menu, with news sites, or my Misc menu with bookmarks that don't have a category, or code for my obj-c, or ruby pages). you didn't mention anything about the tab traversal. wasn't sure if you agree or disagree with that. none of these are necessarily bugs, but more or less user expectations that aren't met. --- Mike Pinkerton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Dec 23, 2003, at 9:04 AM, Tristan O'Tierney > wrote: > > 1) Make the google bar tab-accessable from > location > > bar. > > I'm quite sure the developers know about this, but > I'm > > reiterating it. > > yeah we know. > > > 2) Make the navigation buttons easier to > > differentiate. > > noted > > > 3) Let users close tabs directly ala Safari or > Galeon. > > Having a close button on each tab (or even a > close > > button at all!) means if i'm feeling like a lazy > mouse > > user i don't have to touch the keyboard. i'm not > > trying to say one's faster than the other, merely > that > > one can sometimes be more useful at a given time > than > > another. > > noted. > > > For that matter, I just tested and the tabs > > just get smaller and smaller as you open more. > This > > is a design flaw as well. > > i disagree. apple uses this technique in many other > places (things get > smaller as you get more of them to fit more in, but > not penalize you > if you don't have that many items). > > > This all really boils down > > to implementing your own tab widget ala safari, > and i > > know i use it as an example too often, but they're > > right in this case. > > Patches are welcome ;) > > > > > 6) Customize google bar. Firebird lets me add > google > > images, imdb, dictionary, thesaurus. It's built > into > > mozilla apparently. Maybe it works in camino too, > but > > most users don't know where to look (i don't..). > > Perhaps provide a Get More... link at the bottom > of > > the "select search mode" menu popup. > > you can do this yourself, just edit the plist in the > package. no need > to have a UI for this. > > > 7) Toolbar bookmark links are TINY!. I don't > have > > magnifying glasses handy :) Most specifically i'm > > talking about the menu pop-downs. The text in the > > toolbar bookmark menu pop-downs is noticably very > > small compared to safari or firebird. > > It's the same size text as in the bookmarks toolbar > itself, FWIW. > Perhaps we could make use the standard size for the > menu. > > > 8) Put import/export bookmarks where you > manipulate > > bookmarks. I went to the new bookmarks window > looking > > for a way to import my safari bookmarks for > awhile. > > Took me way too long to realize it was in the > Camino > > menu. At the very least these should be under the > > bookmarks menu. > > I agree it should be moved, but i think having it as > a button is too > prominent. You're not going to be using this all the > time, so why > clutter up the bookmark ui with it? It used to live > in the bookmarks > menu, but i found that cluttering as well, since > you'd have to skip > over it every single time to get to what you really > want -- the > bookmarks. Why make the user skip over something > 99.9% of the time? > Better to move it out of the way. Perhaps the file > menu is better? > > Thanks for the feedback. Do we have bugs on the > issues that I agree > with? > > -- > Mike Pinkerton > Mac Weenie > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _______________________________________________ > Camino mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/camino __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ _______________________________________________ Camino mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mozdev.org/mailman/listinfo/camino
