--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "turbulatordude" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I pulled apart an old HP plotter ......
> > Has anyone ever tried to use the plotter motors ?
> > > Has anyone ever hacked the controller board for these for CNC 
> use ?
> > Any ideas what to do with them ?
> > Since I have three more plotters I'm not sure if I should pull 
them 
> > apart for parts or just junk them.
> > 
> > Dave.
> 
> Dave,
> This is the idea that gave me the CNC bug many moons ago.
> I still haven't shaken it and a relapse was brought on recently 
with 
> the imminent delivery of a free HP 7475A Graphics Plotter. I 
already 
> received the (Operator's) Manual.
> Hopefully, the motors in mine are steppers, for simplicity.
> To keep things simple, I will use the output motor phase signals 
and 
> add a simple Driver Stage (eg. Higher Voltage stage with 4x 
> darlingtons to bigger steppers). I intend to stick with the HPGL 
and 
> drive it as a Plotter as designed.
> The original cheap Plotter that I first played with was on a SHARP 
> MZ700 64kB computer circa 1978. It had 4 wee coloured ballpoint 
pens 
> in a rotating chamber. Motors were driven by 5V TTL Hi levels on 
the 
> phase wires!
> A BASIC command such as "CIRCLE 5,46,0,360,0.2" (Draw a circle with 
> centre at X=5,Y=46, Radius:123,Start Angle:0,End Angle:360,Step 
> Angle:0.2 degrees) involved sending ASCII codes 
> 
for "C","comma","5","comma","4","6","comma","0","comma","3","6","0","c
> omma","0",".","2" to an onboard interpreter).
> HPGL may well be interpreted onboard in vintage plotters in a 
similar 
> way. Axis co-ordination being done onboard.(A reason to stick with 
> that command format.)
> There are a few different ways of achieving extra controls. Pen-
> Up /Down is readily available (including successive Pen-Dns!)and 
the 
> pen change movements can be modified also. (The SHARP simply drove 
> the pen carousel against an off-plot-area stop with the pen up. 
Each 
> motion against the stop indexed the carousel to the next pen by a 
> simple mechanical ratchet.)
> Pen cleaning movement routines are often available for playing 
with, 
> too.
> I scrapped the SHARP project because it only addressed -480 to +480 
> clicks on X-axis. HP7475A does -32767 to +32767 clicks per axis, so 
> 32" at 0.001" resolution is possible!
> Don't throw those boards out yet! They may be smarter than you 
think. 
> (Or throw them my way.)
> Anyone wanting to share manuals/info/hardware/ideas on plotters, 
> please keep in touch. Hurry, though, because I just ordered a 4 
axis 
> Xylotex Driver, and am in danger of going mainstream unless 
> encouraged. :)
> 
> Cheers, Don.
> 
> P.S. Photos will be forthcoming, Dave, but I don't seem able to 
post 
> to Files area ....

Does your manual have schematics ?

It may be possible that the boards are similar.   I can get you 
numbers off the boards.

I am going to put them on E-bay if I can't get someone to get me a 
schematic or trace out the connections.  For the $35 bux or so for 
the 4 I have left I can buy a Xylotex and use my steppers.


as for posting pictures, the files area is closed to public posting.  
unfortunatly, it got filled and no one deleted stuff.

There are a few other yahoo groups you can post, one is 

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CNC-pics

Or send them to me and I'll post them.

Dave







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