I hope _why is OK, I don't care if he wants to change his career but
it would be nice if I were to know that nothing bad happened to him
(Gone camping?)
Give us a sign :)

On 24 August 2010 14:29, Dave Everitt <dever...@innotts.co.uk> wrote:
> @Jenna: love the bit about 'children had no good way to make their own eBay
> competitors' :-)
>
>>> 2. encourages experimentation with a low entry threshold,
>>
>> Did you find the extremely high level of fun interesting obscure ruby
>> hacks to be offputting at first? I did.
>
> I'd been using Ruby and Perl for awhile, so I just found out how to make
> things do what I wanted (then spent loads of time on the Markaby and CSS :-)
>
>>> 3. can also handle serious web development,
>>
>> Yup, so long as you don't let anyone know you've turned to the dark side.
>
> I have a spare soul for the dark side to purchase, but it still has firm
> ethics.
>
>>> 4. doesn't take itself too seriously.
>>
>> Sometimes I wonder about that one, but the spirit of rebellion against
>> serious business still seems strong. ^_^
>
> I see it more as a spirit of experimentation and a deliberate (cartoon)
> foxing around to one side of the boring everyday, but yes, _Why's surreal
> humour got me into Ruby in the first place (although *none* of the 7
> students I introduced to the Poignant Guide got it at all, although one did
> buy Chris Pine's book) and from there...
>
>>> The missing part in the tutorial for me is deployment. I have yet to
>>> deploy anything public! But that's anther post.
>>
>> Hope this helps: http://camping.creativepony.com/Book:-Publishing-an-App
>> :)
>
> Yes, it does - thanks, that's great! Now I've just got to set up our VPS
> accordingly (and document the process as simply as possible)... I might also
> have a go at adding details for Heroku (tried out Sinatra on it, worked
> fine) for my 'Oracle of everyday things' Camping project. Unless someone
> else writes it up first.
>
>> Anyone have experience with Heroku or jRuby + App Engine want to fill in
>> the blanks?
>
> @Aria: 'edge-of-zany' - definitely. Or at least, off the beaten path. BTW
> Nice vegan recipes! With Jenna, Seems Camping might be the framework of
> choice for vegans (or, like me, totally-lactose-intolerant vegetarians)...
>
> Dave E.
>
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