--- In [email protected], Adrian Stott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  
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> The proposal in 3. is not for tolls.  It is for prepaid unlimited
> access to a set of waterways for a given period..
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Obviously, there is a shorter total distance of (broad and wide
> waterways) than of (all waterways".  So if you buy access to only 
the
> former, surely you should actually expect to pay less.
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> Changing to this principle would indeed produce "winners and 
losers",
> and of course the losers will grumble.  However, under the current
> sizist regime, larger boats have been paying (a lot) too much for
> years.  Correcting this injustice, which means also correcting the
> unreasonably (slightly) low charges smaller boats have been paying, 
is
> surely the, er, principled thing to do.
> 
> A canoe *would* still pay less then a cruiser, as the charge would 
be
> payable only for the days it was in the water.  Most canoes are kept
> out of the water in sheds for most of the year, not at moorings.
> 
> Adrian
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> 
> Adrian Stott
> 07956-299966


Adrian,

I agree with a licence fee based upon accessible cruising area BUT I 
would find it unfair if I was charged for waterways which I would 
never use.

E.g. I own a 40ft long narrowboat allowing me to access the whole of 
the connected inland waterways (I think). Under your proposal, as I 
see it, I would pay the full licence fee (for access to everything) 
(let's say this amount is £500). However, I moor on the Kennet and 
Avon and only ever have the time to move my boat 1 weeks boating away 
from the mooring location before returning. The point is that I could 
never use a waterway such as the Leeds and Liverpool because it is 
too far away. The reason I bought a 40ft boat rather than 60ft or 
70ft was to save on the capital outlay - a 40ft boat is cheaper than 
a longer boat.

My friend owns a 70ft narrowboat and is therefore restricted in his 
cruising area. Let's say that, under your proposal, he would get a 
20% discount on the full licence fee - he pays £400 (this is less 
than me). However, he has more free time and, therefore, is able to 
cruise most of the waterways available to him.

I find it unfair that I, with less actual cruising range (due to my 
circumstances) than my friend, pay £100 more than him. Essentially, 
my friend gets more cruising range for less money.

To solve this problem, I think that there should be a licence fee for 
each waterway. E.g. you can buy a licence for "all waterways a 
70ftx7ft boat fits on" (ticking them off on a form) OR just "The 
Kennet and Avon Canal" OR whatever.

So, in the example above, I buy a "Kennet and Avon" licence and my 
friend buys an "all waterways which a 70ft x 7ft boat fits on" 
licence.


So, essentially, have licences available for individual waterways. 

You could even include time-scales (like on the Thames) so that you 
could buy a 3 day licence for the Bridgewater Canal or whatever.

This is a sort of re-think of my tolls idea except moving and non-
moving boats pay the same but still only pay for what they DO USE 
rather than what they technically COULD USE (which seems to be your 
suggestion).

Cheers,

Ben

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