I took the liberty of sending Adrian's comments about John Edmunds to John
himself. Adrian's comments are reproduced below, and below that is John's
response to them which he is happy to have posted here. I will leave it to
you all to determine whether you feel Adrian accurately reflected Johns
views on this matter.

ADRIAN'S COMMENT

2008/10/9 Adrian Stott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> It was made abundantly clear that the current £30 million/year gap
> between what BW needs to spend to keep the waterways in a steady state
> of repair, and the revenue it now has, is *not* going to be made up by
> added government grant.  Boaters were advised bluntly by John Edmunds
> (IWAC) not to waste any more time on that idea.
>


JOHN'S REPLY


My argument was the opposite of the report to you.  It went like this:

   - The most important game in town is the funding issue.  Everything else
   is minor compared to the funding gap.
   - Because of the pressure on government spending and competition for
   funds we have to find a  more convincing approach than we have used in the
   past.
   - Old style campaigning might prevent further cuts but it will not
   deliver the big increases in funds (say an extra £50million a year) that are
   needed.
   - In particular the boaters on their own will not do it: "60 or 100,000
   boaters can make a lot of noise but they will not, on their own, persuade
   the Treasury to part up with the extra money".

The new approach should have three elements:
*Better facts *- we need to be able to demonstrate, and not just
assert, that the waterways deliver extensive and valuable benefits for many
different groups.  That is why IWAC has pressed Defra to commission the
research that will put robust values on all the benefits.  The good news is
that the researchers were chosen last week and the project has started.
*Better ideas *- at present the government funding is based not on needs and
opportunities but on how much the navigation authorities got last year.  We
need to develop funding principles for a long term plan.  IWAC will be
producing a report at the end of next year showing what the options are.  At
present we are looking at what other countries do to see if they have any
good ideas that we can use.
*A grand coalition of support *- BW, and most important the boating
organisations themselves, need to reach out to win the support of groups
that we have sometimes fought with in the past (like other leisure groups,
environmentalists, heritage organisations and even business groups who will
develop sympathetically).  We need a grand coalition of support for the
waterways.

I summed up by saying:
"If we build a campaign using this new approach we stand a good chance of
success: if we continue in the old ways, all we are doing is postponing the
defeat."

Sorry to go on at such length but if that is an argument for giving up, I am
a banana.


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