Vernon Draper wrote:
>> 2009/2/20 Peter Stockdale [email protected]
>>
>>>
>>> Perhaps - when Dave sobers up sometime tomorrow, he will realise that
>>> morons as applied to smokers was inapropriate.
>>> As an ex-smoker,  I also find the term offensive.
>>> Apology ?
> 
>  "Steve Haywood"
> Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:45 AM
>> I'm sure we wouldn't want this list to become a mealy-mouthed domain of
>> political correctness. Dave's language was only a measure of the strength 
>> he
>> felt about the issue and I'm certain no personal insult was intended to
>> anyone.
>>
>> Steve
>>
> 
> I too found the original message offensive and do regard it as a personal 
> insult to every smoker on the list. I don't believe it is the place of 
> others to issue apologies.

No personal insult was made to any named individual on or off this list. 
Nor has any apology been issued on behalf of anyone else unless I have 
missed something. What Steve did was very similar to what you have just 
done - you have interpreted the comments and shared your conclusions 
with us.

This is a hugely contentious subject and I for one have so far only just 
managed to avoid being drawn into expressing my own VERY strong views.

How about we all recognise it as an issue we're never going to come 
close to agreeing on and move on. This has the makings of a nasty 
argument and I don't think any of us wants that.

Steve
NB Bream

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