That's wonderful news! Thanks! Suggestion: use this thread as an example of what's broken and how to fix it. In particular, see http://wso2.org/project/carbon-studio/1.0.3/docs/install_guide.html (leaving aside the many other blogs out there with flat out wrong instructions.) There's even one with links to ~carbon that don't even resolve. Notice that it doesn't even mention the many gotcha flavors that turned up in this thread and their work arounds.
Just one particularly infuriating example of what I've experienced as the norm with WSO2 documentation across the board. Not to say that developer blogs don't have a place. But that place is internal, locked behind the firewall for other internal developers, not users at large. Users need valid information; internal developers will make do with what they have. On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 5:44 AM, Afkham Azeez <az...@wso2.com> wrote: > Thanks Brad for your feedback. I have escalated this. Focusing on > improving our docs is something we should do as part of the usability > theme this year. > > Azeez > > > On Sunday, February 13, 2011, Brad Cox <bradj...@gmail.com> wrote: >> No, I'm just trying to get eclipse debugging working. Installing in an >> raw eclipse seems to work so I'll try to be helpful now. >> >> Azeez, the problem I'm reporting (bluntly and for that I apologize) is >> very real and quite repairable. Track down and exterminate all those >> fragmentary, incomplete, obsolete and misleading blog entries, replace >> them with one or several authoritative documents and keep them up to >> date. Your stuff is complicated. It deserves a professional writer and >> shouldn't be left to developer blogs. The broken links, missing >> graphics, and invalid information are giving WSO2 a bad name. That >> just breeds dissatisfaction everywhere you go. >> >> On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 10:28 PM, Afkham Azeez <az...@wso2.com> wrote: >>> Brad >>> It seems that you are trying to portray a negative impression about our >>> software. Of course there are areas which we can improve and and we are >>> working on it. One of the things our users and customers are impressed about >>> is the ease of use and leanness of our software. The fact that ebay and many >>> other leading companies using our software in large clusters proves it. >>> >>> ------ >>> Sent from my APD® >>> >>> On Feb 13, 2011 4:48 AM, "Brad Cox" <bradj...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> There are dozens of them on various developer blogs. There's even one >>>> for each version, all slightly different, all incompatible and all >>>> incomplete. None of them work AFAIK. >>>> >>>> Free software, and worth every penny. >>>> >>>> On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Rodrigo Elhaibe <relha...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> Hello. >>>>> Please. Anyone have a simple tutoria that explain the installation, use, >>>>> characteristics and how is the interaction between all the software that >>>>> carbon offers?? >>>>> >>>>> I'm trying to use Carbon and it seems rather complex to understand and >>>>> interact with each other all parts of the Middleware. >>>>> >>>>> Thankyou very much. >>>>> Rodrigo >>>>> >>>>> 2011/2/12 Brad Cox <bradj...@gmail.com> >>>>>> >>>>>> Soooo, how do I install Carbon Studio? >>>>>> >>>>>> Cannot complete the install because one or more required items could >>>>>> not be found. >>>>>> Software being installed: Enterprise Service Bus Tools 1.0.2 >>>>>> (org.wso2.carbonstudio.eclipse.esb.feature.feature.group 1.0.2) >>>>>> Missing requirement: WSO2 ESB Tool 1.0.2 >>>>>> (org.wso2.carbonstudio.eclipse.esb.editor 1.0.2) requires 'bundle >>>>>> org.eclipse.wst.xml.xpath.core 0.0.0' but it could not be found >>>>>> Cannot satisfy dependency: >>>>>> From: Enterprise Service Bus Tools 1.0.2 >>>>>> (org.wso2.carbonstudio.eclipse.esb.feature.feature.group 1.0.2) >>>>>> To: org.wso2.carbonstudio.eclipse.esb.editor [1.0.2] >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Brad Cox <bradj...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> > If that supports debugging apps in eclipse, I've missed it somehow. I >>>>>> > thought that just generated stuff. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Jorge Infante Osorio <jorg...@uci.cu> >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> >> Carbon Studio >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > -- >>>>>> > Cell: 703-594-1883 >>>>>> > Blog: http://bradjcox.blogspot.com >>>>>> > Web: http://virtualschool.edu >>>>>> > Manassas VA 20111 >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Cell: 703-594-1883 >>>>>> Blog: http://bradjcox.blogspot.com >>>>>> Web: http://virtualschool.edu >>>>>> Manassas VA 20111 >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Carbon-dev mailing list >>>>>> Carbon-dev@wso2.org >>>>>> http://mail.wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/carbon-dev >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Carbon-dev mailing list >>> > > -- > *Afkham Azeez* > Senior Software Architect & Senior Manager; WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com, > * > * > *Member; Apache Software Foundation; > **http://www.apache.org/*<http://www.apache.org/> > * > email: **az...@wso2.com* <az...@wso2.com>* cell: +94 77 3320919 > blog: **http://blog.afkham.org* <http://blog.afkham.org>* > twitter: **http://twitter.com/afkham_azeez*<http://twitter.com/afkham_azeez> > * > linked-in: **http://lk.linkedin.com/in/afkhamazeez* > * > * > *Lean . 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