Good points again. Please keep sending us such feedback.

Thanks
AzeezAzeez

On Sunday, February 13, 2011, Brad Cox <bradj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> That's wonderful news! Thanks!
>
> Suggestion: use this thread as an example of what's broken and how to
> fix it. In particular, see
> http://wso2.org/project/carbon-studio/1.0.3/docs/install_guide.html
> (leaving aside the many other blogs out there with flat out wrong
> instructions.) There's even one with links to ~carbon that don't even
> resolve. Notice that it doesn't even mention the many gotcha flavors
> that turned up in this thread and their work arounds.
>
> Just one particularly infuriating example of what I've experienced as
> the norm with WSO2 documentation across the board.
>
> Not to say that developer blogs don't have a place. But that place is
> internal, locked behind the firewall for other internal developers,
> not users at large. Users need valid information; internal developers
> will make do with what they have.
>
> On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 5:44 AM, Afkham Azeez <az...@wso2.com> wrote:
>> Thanks Brad for your feedback. I have escalated this. Focusing on
>> improving our docs is something we should do as part of the usability
>> theme this year.
>>
>> Azeez
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, February 13, 2011, Brad Cox <bradj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> No, I'm just trying to get eclipse debugging working. Installing in an
>>> raw eclipse seems to work so I'll try to be helpful now.
>>>
>>> Azeez, the problem I'm reporting (bluntly and for that I apologize) is
>>> very real and quite repairable. Track down and exterminate all those
>>> fragmentary, incomplete, obsolete and misleading blog entries, replace
>>> them with one or several authoritative documents and keep them up to
>>> date. Your stuff is complicated. It deserves a professional writer and
>>> shouldn't be left to developer blogs. The broken links, missing
>>> graphics, and invalid information are giving WSO2 a bad name. That
>>> just breeds dissatisfaction everywhere you go.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 10:28 PM, Afkham Azeez <az...@wso2.com> wrote:
>>>> Brad
>>>> It seems that you are trying to portray a negative impression about our
>>>> software. Of course there are areas which we can improve and and we are
>>>> working on it. One of the things our users and customers are impressed 
>>>> about
>>>> is the ease of use and leanness of our software. The fact that ebay and 
>>>> many
>>>> other leading companies using our software in large clusters proves it.
>>>>
>>>> ------
>>>> Sent from my APD®
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 13, 2011 4:48 AM, "Brad Cox" <bradj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> There are dozens of them on various developer blogs. There's even one
>>>>> for each version, all slightly different, all incompatible and all
>>>>> incomplete. None of them work AFAIK.
>>>>>
>>>>> Free software, and worth every penny.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Rodrigo Elhaibe <relha...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hello.
>>>>>> Please. Anyone have a simple tutoria that explain the installation, use,
>>>>>> characteristics and how is the interaction between all the software that
>>>>>> carbon offers??
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm trying to use Carbon and it seems rather complex to understand and
>>>>>> interact with each other all parts of the Middleware.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thankyou very much.
>>>>>> Rodrigo
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2011/2/12 Brad Cox <bradj...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Soooo, how do I install Carbon Studio?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cannot complete the install because one or more required items could
>>>>>>> not be found.
>>>>>>>  Software being installed: Enterprise Service Bus Tools 1.0.2
>>>>>>> (org.wso2.carbonstudio.eclipse.esb.feature.feature.group 1.0.2)
>>>>>>>  Missing requirement: WSO2 ESB Tool 1.0.2
>>>>>>> (org.wso2.carbonstudio.eclipse.esb.editor 1.0.2) requires 'bundle
>>>>>>> org.eclipse.wst.xml.xpath.core 0.0.0' but it could not be found
>>>>>>>  Cannot satisfy dependency:
>>>>>>>    From: Enterprise Service Bus Tools 1.0.2
>>>>>>> (org.wso2.carbonstudio.eclipse.esb.feature.feature.group 1.0.2)
>>>>>>>    To: org.wso2.carbonstudio.eclipse.esb.editor [1.0.2]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Brad Cox <bradj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> > If that supports debugging apps in eclipse, I've missed it somehow. I
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