Hi, Had a chat with Harshana and fixed the P2 label issue. Let me know whether this is okay or any other change required.
Thanks. On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Senaka Fernando <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Harshana, > > On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Harshana Martin <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Senaka, >> >> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 1:57 AM, Senaka Fernando <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Harshana, >>> >>> As someone who's already familiar with Carbon Studio, I don't find any >>> issues. I know where to start and where to go next and what to do. You too >>> know that, and that is why you get back to me with do this and do that >>> responses. >> >> >> True :) >> >> >>> >>> >>> But, for a new user, the download page is not @ all informative, and >>> he/she will be lost. We have a pattern in all Carbon based products, where >>> you can first download the binary and then read the INSTALL.txt and the >>> README.txt and start using the product, which CS does not follow. To >>> emphasize this point, I mentioned, "as a user already using ESB and DSS". >>> >> >> I agree that there is a pattern in other Carbon products and CS does not >> follow it. >> >> This is because CS is an extension for Eclipse rather than another of >> Carbon based product. Having said that, when we implement an extension to >> Eclipse, we need to follow the guidelines of Eclipse rather than the >> guidelines of Carbon because it is going to be an extension to Eclipse. For >> example, when we design the menus and other UI elements in CS, we need to >> stick with Eclipse best practices rather than Carbon UI design guidelines. >> Otherwise users who are already familiar with Eclipse are getting confused >> and it seems to be wrong. >> >> In my personal opinion, expecting CS to behave in the same manner like >> other Carbon Servers does not make much sense to me since they are >> completely different products and work in completely different ways. If an >> user expecting an IDE to work like a Server, well.. it does not make any >> sense to me.. It's just what i feel :). >> >>> >>> I believe that we need a more user friendly solution to help people get >>> started. >>> >> >> ++1 for idea. I'm positive we can come up with such solutions. >> >> If there is something we can do to help users, we should definitely do >> that. But that solution has to make sense in that context. We should not >> violate accepted practices in that domain :). >> > > Yes, perhaps we can fix the downloads page in someway perhaps. Anyway not > being a Carbon Server, does not mean that you also should not attach a > LICENSE.txt at least, which you probably need to do. And, at least a > bare-minimum README.txt might help. Just a thought. > > Thanks, > Senaka. > >> >> Thanks and Regards, >> Harshana >> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Senaka. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Harshana Martin <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Senaka, >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 1:27 AM, Senaka Fernando <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> Now here's my scenario, I want to install and run CS 1.0.14 as a user >>>>> who's already using WSO2 ESB and WSO2 DS. >>>>> >>>>> 1. I went to the Downloads page. >>>>> 2. I found the Binary and downloaded the zip file. >>>>> >>>> >>>> You downloaded which binary distribution? >>>> >>>> We have 2 types of distributions, p2 repo distribution and CS >>>> pre-installed Eclipse instances. So your next step depends on the >>>> distribution you downloaded. >>>> >>>> 3. Extracted the zip file. >>>>> >>>> >>>> If you have downloaded the P2 repo, this step is not required and >>>> not recommended. >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I get no LICENSE, no README, >>>> >>>> >>>> This also depends on the distribution. If you got P2 repo, license >>>> information are embedded inside the content.xml file which resides in >>>> content.jar inside the p2 repo distribution. >>>> >>>> If you download the pre installed Eclipse, you can find the license in >>>> the root level IIRC. >>>> >>>> and so, as a user, how am I supposed to start using this? >>>>> >>>> >>>> I think you are supposed to refer installation guide [1] :). >>>> >>>> [1]. >>>> http://wso2.org/project/carbon-studio/1.0.14/docs/install_guide.html >>>> >>>> Thanks and Regards, >>>> Harshana >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Senaka. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> *Senaka Fernando* >>>>> Product Manager - WSO2 Governance Registry; >>>>> Associate Technical Lead; WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.com* >>>>> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://apache.org >>>>> >>>>> E-mail: senaka AT wso2.com >>>>> **P: +1 408 754 7388; ext: 51736*; *M: +94 77 322 1818 >>>>> Linked-In: http://linkedin.com/in/senakafernando >>>>> >>>>> *Lean . Enterprise . Middleware >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Harshana Martin >>>> Software Engineer >>>> WSO2 Inc. >>>> Web:http://wso2.com >>>> http://wso2.org >>>> >>>> Mobile: +94 716062650 >>>> Blog: http://harshana05.blogspot.com >>>> Profile: https://www.google.com/profiles/harshana05 >>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/harshana05 >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *Senaka Fernando* >>> Product Manager - WSO2 Governance Registry; >>> Associate Technical Lead; WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.com* >>> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://apache.org >>> >>> E-mail: senaka AT wso2.com >>> **P: +1 408 754 7388; ext: 51736*; *M: +94 77 322 1818 >>> Linked-In: http://linkedin.com/in/senakafernando >>> >>> *Lean . Enterprise . Middleware >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Harshana Martin >> Software Engineer >> WSO2 Inc. >> Web:http://wso2.com >> http://wso2.org >> >> Mobile: +94 716062650 >> Blog: http://harshana05.blogspot.com >> Profile: https://www.google.com/profiles/harshana05 >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/harshana05 >> >> > > > -- > *Senaka Fernando* > Product Manager - WSO2 Governance Registry; > Associate Technical Lead; WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.com* > Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://apache.org > > E-mail: senaka AT wso2.com > **P: +1 408 754 7388; ext: 51736*; *M: +94 77 322 1818 > Linked-In: http://linkedin.com/in/senakafernando > > *Lean . Enterprise . Middleware > > > _______________________________________________ > Carbon-dev mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/carbon-dev > > -- == Dasunpriya Anuradha.
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