And resolved the JIRA too.

Thanks.

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Dasunpriya Anuradha <anura...@wso2.com>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Had a chat with Harshana and fixed the P2 label issue. Let me know whether
> this is okay or any other change required.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Senaka Fernando <sen...@wso2.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Harshana,
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Harshana Martin <harsh...@wso2.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Senaka,
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 1:57 AM, Senaka Fernando <sen...@wso2.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Harshana,
>>>>
>>>> As someone who's already familiar with Carbon Studio, I don't find any
>>>> issues. I know where to start and where to go next and what to do. You too
>>>> know that, and that is why you get back to me with do this and do that
>>>> responses.
>>>
>>>
>>> True :)
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> But, for a new user, the download page is not @ all informative, and
>>>> he/she will be lost. We have a pattern in all Carbon based products, where
>>>> you can first download the binary and then read the INSTALL.txt and the
>>>> README.txt and start using the product, which CS does not follow. To
>>>> emphasize this point, I mentioned, "as a user already using ESB and DSS".
>>>>
>>>
>>> I agree that there is a pattern in other Carbon products and CS does not
>>> follow it.
>>>
>>> This is because CS is an extension for Eclipse rather than another of
>>> Carbon based product. Having said that, when we implement an extension to
>>> Eclipse, we need to follow the guidelines of Eclipse rather than the
>>> guidelines of Carbon because it is going to be an extension to Eclipse. For
>>> example, when we design the menus and other UI elements in CS, we need to
>>> stick with Eclipse best practices rather than Carbon UI design guidelines.
>>> Otherwise users who are already familiar with Eclipse are getting confused
>>> and it seems to be wrong.
>>>
>>> In my personal opinion, expecting CS to behave in the same manner like
>>> other Carbon Servers does not make much sense to me since they are
>>> completely different products and work in completely different ways. If an
>>> user expecting an IDE to work like a Server, well.. it does not make any
>>> sense to me.. It's just what i feel :).
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I believe that we need a more user friendly solution to help people get
>>>> started.
>>>>
>>>
>>> ++1 for idea. I'm positive we can come up with such solutions.
>>>
>>> If there is something we can do to help users, we should definitely do
>>> that. But that solution has to make sense in that context. We should not
>>> violate accepted practices in that domain :).
>>>
>>
>> Yes, perhaps we can fix the downloads page in someway perhaps. Anyway not
>> being a Carbon Server, does not mean that you also should not attach a
>> LICENSE.txt at least, which you probably need to do. And, at least a
>> bare-minimum README.txt might help. Just a thought.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Senaka.
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks and Regards,
>>> Harshana
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Senaka.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Harshana Martin <harsh...@wso2.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Senaka,
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 1:27 AM, Senaka Fernando <sen...@wso2.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now here's my scenario, I want to install and run CS 1.0.14 as a user
>>>>>> who's already using WSO2 ESB and WSO2 DS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. I went to the Downloads page.
>>>>>> 2. I found the Binary and downloaded the zip file.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You downloaded which binary distribution?
>>>>>
>>>>> We have 2 types of distributions, p2 repo distribution and CS
>>>>> pre-installed Eclipse instances. So your next step depends on the
>>>>> distribution you downloaded.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. Extracted the zip file.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have downloaded the P2 repo, this step is not required and
>>>>> not recommended.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I get no LICENSE, no README,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This also depends on the distribution. If you got P2 repo, license
>>>>> information are embedded inside the content.xml file which resides in
>>>>> content.jar inside the p2 repo distribution.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you download the pre installed Eclipse, you can find the license in
>>>>> the root level IIRC.
>>>>>
>>>>> and so, as a user, how am I supposed to start using this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I think you are supposed to refer installation guide [1] :).
>>>>>
>>>>> [1].
>>>>> http://wso2.org/project/carbon-studio/1.0.14/docs/install_guide.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks and Regards,
>>>>> Harshana
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Senaka.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> *Senaka Fernando*
>>>>>> Product Manager - WSO2 Governance Registry;
>>>>>> Associate Technical Lead; WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.com*
>>>>>> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://apache.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>> E-mail: senaka AT wso2.com
>>>>>> **P: +1 408 754 7388; ext: 51736*; *M: +94 77 322 1818
>>>>>> Linked-In: http://linkedin.com/in/senakafernando
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Lean . Enterprise . Middleware
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Harshana Martin
>>>>> Software Engineer
>>>>> WSO2 Inc.
>>>>> Web:http://wso2.com
>>>>>           http://wso2.org
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *Senaka Fernando*
>>>> Product Manager - WSO2 Governance Registry;
>>>> Associate Technical Lead; WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.com*
>>>> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://apache.org
>>>>
>>>> E-mail: senaka AT wso2.com
>>>> **P: +1 408 754 7388; ext: 51736*; *M: +94 77 322 1818
>>>> Linked-In: http://linkedin.com/in/senakafernando
>>>>
>>>> *Lean . Enterprise . Middleware
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Harshana Martin
>>> Software Engineer
>>> WSO2 Inc.
>>> Web:http://wso2.com
>>>           http://wso2.org
>>>
>>> Mobile: +94 716062650
>>> Blog: http://harshana05.blogspot.com
>>> Profile: https://www.google.com/profiles/harshana05
>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/harshana05
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Senaka Fernando*
>> Product Manager - WSO2 Governance Registry;
>> Associate Technical Lead; WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.com*
>> Member; Apache Software Foundation; http://apache.org
>>
>> E-mail: senaka AT wso2.com
>> **P: +1 408 754 7388; ext: 51736*; *M: +94 77 322 1818
>> Linked-In: http://linkedin.com/in/senakafernando
>>
>> *Lean . Enterprise . Middleware
>>
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