dam!!! i should paid more atention to my software engineering class hehehe thanks again... as soon as i have an importan advance, i will show you all...
----- === xxxxx XXXXX xxxxx === ----- Marcelino Mateos Palacios. ----- === xxxxx XXXXX xxxxx === ----- ---------------------------------------- > From: gjergj.sheld...@gmail.com > To: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 01:53:19 +0200 > Subject: Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2x and VoIP Asterisk > > to better understand the db structure of x2x, try to take a look at the > developers wiki : > http://apps.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/care2002/index.php?title=Developer > %27s_Manual > > gj. > > On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 17:01 -0500, Marcelino Mateos Palacios wrote: >> I agree about the "problem" This is what I am trying to solve and will be >> the main scope of the project. >> >> I was thinking to use AGI for this. xml-rpc seems to be faster and >> simpler... (Now we must see how asterisk can handle it) >> Or may be use a mix of both… >> >> I'm now trying to understand the database structure of care2x and the way >> Freepbx works, since it uses php and mysql in a relatively reliable and >> stable way. >> >> About the scheduling module, first, I must see the way asterisk will >> interact with c2x. Once I understand it, the integration according to the >> requirements will be simpler. >> >> Thanks for the recommendation. It is usefull to me. >> >> greetings >> >> >> ----- === xxxxx XXXXX xxxxx === ----- >> Marcelino Mateos Palacios. >> ----- === xxxxx XXXXX xxxxx === ----- >> >> >>> From: gjergj.sheld...@gmail.com >>> To: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net >>> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 23:09:49 +0200 >>> Subject: Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2x and VoIP Asterisk >>> >>> Hi Marcelino, >>> >>> if you can avoid the voice recognition part and limit it to the minimum, >>> as you mention use the dial keys then it's perfect! :) >>> >>> so the "only" problems left are interfacing asterisk to c2x and the >>> scheduling. >>> >>> as for the asterisk <-> c2x communication an interesting option could be >>> to use xml-rpc calls. this since the libraries i've seen for asterisk to >>> communicate with php ( phpagi, asterisk php and asterisk php api ) have >>> to major drawbacks >>> - not properly ready for production ex here : >>> http://eder.us/projects/asterisk_php/ >>> - and second, there's nothing that assures you that the developing of >>> those libraries will continue, risking to stall the future updates of >>> c2x for those systems. >>> >>> regarding the scheduler, we have to discuss a bit on the features that >>> are needed. >>> >>> regards >>> gjergj >>> >>> >>> On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 12:31 -0500, Marcelino Mateos Palacios wrote: >>>> Hello GJ… >>>> >>>> In order to be able to use the telephonic appointment system, the user >>>> must already have an id (in this case we will use the file Id or even a >>>> Patient Id which is assigned by the system. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Usually, the user comes to the hospital when something hurts… In this >>>> first visit is when the receptionist will take the patient data and >>>> will introduce it into the system. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> After this, the user will be able to use the system (with the user Id >>>> given by the receptionist) to access the appointments system (via phone >>>> or web) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I’d like to use the phone because many of our patients (users) come >>>> from places where there is no internet and there are only a couple of >>>> telephonic lines are shared with all the people (towns with 100 or 200 >>>> people). >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The ASR will be used to acquire some data that are difficult to >>>> introduce with the phone, for example, the name or in cases where a >>>> pulse dial phone is used or where the people disables the keypad to >>>> prevent users to make unauthorized calls (is the technology present in >>>> our small Mexican towns), and the system will confirm that it >>>> understands what the user was trying to say. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The rest of the process will be using the phone keypad (pres 1 to do >>>> something and 2 to make another) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Of course there will always be an option to reach and operator which >>>> will make the process if the user can’t (if you want to speak with our >>>> operator, say yes, or wait on the line). This was no conceived to make >>>> the receptionist work obsolete, it was made to reduce the work load and >>>> allow her to focus on other activities, for example, to drink more >>>> coffee or have more time to chat etc etc. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This is my justification. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks for the comments and I will include this (with your permission) >>>> as part of my work justification with another common questions made by >>>> other people. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- === xxxxx XXXXX xxxxx === ----- >>>> Marcelino Mateos Palacios. >>>> ----- === xxxxx XXXXX xxxxx === ----- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------- >>>>> From: gjergj.sheld...@gmail.com >>>>> To: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>> Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 19:05:21 +0200 >>>>> Subject: Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2x and VoIP Asterisk >>>>> >>>>> Hello Marcelino, >>>>> >>>>> the way c2x works - the majority of theis kind of sw works - is that the >>>>> user has to be registered and admitted in an ambulatory / department >>>>> before he/she can access the services of a hospital, be it lab, >>>>> pharmacy, etc. >>>>> >>>>> the first - and most difficult step - is going to be the scheduling of >>>>> the appointment for patient that are not registered in the system; there >>>>> are some fields that would need to be filled in for a registration to be >>>>> accepted by c2x. it's true that one can modify them and make it >>>>> acceptable without filling those forms..but is it correct ? >>>>> >>>>> another - quick - thing, do you think it's a good idea to use voice >>>>> recognition in a medical environment ? >>>>> >>>>> regarding the scheduler and the lab analysis is not that difficult. >>>>> >>>>> gj. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, 2009-05-31 at 11:52 -0500, Marcelino Mateos Palacios wrote: >>>>>> Hello Enrique, Hi Gjergj >>>>>> Thanks for the answers. >>>>>> >>>>>> The project is giving his first steps... >>>>>> >>>>>> I have some experience with asterisk and another IP PBX’s. I have 3 in >>>>>> production. The biggest has almost 70 extensions. >>>>>> >>>>>> The process for install and configure asterisk in a lab environment is >>>>>> the first step (although I already have some experience with this.) >>>>>> >>>>>> The Next… is to know the way care2x modify the tables and relations in >>>>>> the database (I will be querying Gjergj for this :-) ) >>>>>> >>>>>> I have no much experience with databases and php, (I have been working >>>>>> in the communications world) but the project will basically focuses on >>>>>> write the registers needed by care2x. >>>>>> >>>>>> We will use asterisk AGI language to make the interface from the PBX to >>>>>> the database. Is the same process and techniques used for asterisk to >>>>>> manage information from FreePBX and all the modules (there are a nice >>>>>> tutorial about how to do this with the call logs, known as CDR.) and I >>>>>> pretend use it to complete the project. >>>>>> >>>>>> The last step will be to install and configure the "text to speech" and >>>>>> "automatic speech recognition" engines to interact with the user. I >>>>>> pretend to use a package known as Festival. >>>>>> >>>>>> Although I’d like to use an “API” call “Loquendo VoxNauta”, (this has >>>>>> great voices) I have read that is too expensive. >>>>>> >>>>>> And the last step, is to put all together… >>>>>> >>>>>> There will be some “intermediate steps” like intercommunicate two VoIP >>>>>> PBX (specifically, cisco call manager) and configure another stuff we >>>>>> have in the Lab and I’d like to use. >>>>>> >>>>>> Officially, I will start the work this Monday June 1st and I will make >>>>>> one weekly report until mid November when I will present the work and >>>>>> defend the investigation to obtain my Master grade. >>>>>> >>>>>> Wish me luck. >>>>>> >>>>>> I’m from Oaxaca México and student from the Anahuac University, here in >>>>>> Oaxaca. >>>>>> ----- === xxxxx XXXXX xxxxx === ----- >>>>>> Marcelino Mateos Palacios. >>>>>> ----- === xxxxx XXXXX xxxxx === ----- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>>> Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 09:15:05 -0500 >>>>>>> From: enri...@laentrada.com.mx >>>>>>> To: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2x and VoIP Asterisk >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Marcelino, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm from Mexico too. Id like to know more of your project. I already >>>>>>> installed an asterix PBX on laboratory's environment and, after ear a >>>>>>> spech from the POP, I want to modify my PBX in order to make some kind >>>>>>> of authomatic tasks. This is one interesting task to do. I'm in DF. >>>>>>> Where are you from? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Enrique. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2009/5/30 Gjergj Sheldija> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Marcelino, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> i'm working exactly on this - the scheduling module - you can contact me >>>>>>> >>>>>>> directly on my mail to share what i've achieved until now and how it may >>>>>>> >>>>>>> help you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> regards >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> gj. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, 2009-05-30 at 17:38 -0500, Marcelino Mateos Palacios wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> “This project will use the open source, IP PBX “ASTERISK” as the >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> system core. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It will be used the database of another open source GNU system known >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> as “Care2x” (a Hospital Information System or HIS), specifically, the >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> outpatient module. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The final objective will be to schedule an appointment using the >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> telephone and the possibility to call the user to remind him the date >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> and time. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In a further stage, this will extend to laboratory studies and >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> radiology. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> All the general (and specific) tasks will be documented (photographs, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> diagrams, screenshots, and the most significant commands) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There will be no a step by step guide, since the problems and >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> circumstances on each deployment, can vary in very significant ways, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> giving as result, the misdirection to the reader or obsolescence of >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> this work, (as many tutorials in the internet)” >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Register Now for Creativity and Technology (CaT), June 3rd, NYC. 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