Sorry that mail was sent to the list by error, it was to marcelino only, but
anybody can read it no problem...
Atte
Pepe Magaña
From: pepe_mag...@hotmail.com
To: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 09:31:55 -0700
Subject: Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2x and VoIP Asterisk
Hola Marcelino
Te escribo solo para comentarte que en el Hospital General de Ensenada, Baja
California México
estamos haciendo un sistema de administracion hospitalaria como proyecto Open
Source
esta hecho en delphi con base de datos en MySql
Me interesa mucho que en un futuro pudieramos colaborar con algo como lo que
vas hacer en care2x
de integrar asterisk.
Te envio una presentacion con mas o menos lo que tenemos hasta el momento, y
una copia de mi trabajo
terminal de maestria para que te des una idea de que andamos haciendo.
Saludos
Atte
Pepe Magaña
P.D. Estamos a punto de cambiar el conmutador por una version rentada con AVAYA
con 120 extensiones analogicas 8 lineas y una linea dedicada
Existe alguna solucion con asterisk que nos permitiera hacer este cambio
a esa tecnologia en lugar de rentar con Avaya?
Como se conectarian las 120 extensiones?
> From: marcelino_mat...@hotmail.com
> To: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 21:28:40 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2x and VoIP Asterisk
>
>
> dam!!! i should paid more atention to my software engineering class hehehe
>
> thanks again... as soon as i have an importan advance, i will show you all...
>
>
>
> ----- === xxxxx XXXXX xxxxx === -----
> Marcelino Mateos Palacios.
> ----- === xxxxx XXXXX xxxxx === -----
>
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------
> > From: gjergj.sheld...@gmail.com
> > To: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 01:53:19 +0200
> > Subject: Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2x and VoIP Asterisk
> >
> > to better understand the db structure of x2x, try to take a look at the
> > developers wiki :
> > http://apps.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/care2002/index.php?title=Developer
> > %27s_Manual
> >
> > gj.
> >
> > On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 17:01 -0500, Marcelino Mateos Palacios wrote:
> >> I agree about the "problem" This is what I am trying to solve and will be
> >> the main scope of the project.
> >>
> >> I was thinking to use AGI for this. xml-rpc seems to be faster and
> >> simpler... (Now we must see how asterisk can handle it)
> >> Or may be use a mix of both…
> >>
> >> I'm now trying to understand the database structure of care2x and the way
> >> Freepbx works, since it uses php and mysql in a relatively reliable and
> >> stable way.
> >>
> >> About the scheduling module, first, I must see the way asterisk will
> >> interact with c2x. Once I understand it, the integration according to the
> >> requirements will be simpler.
> >>
> >> Thanks for the recommendation. It is usefull to me.
> >>
> >> greetings
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- === xxxxx XXXXX xxxxx === -----
> >> Marcelino Mateos Palacios.
> >> ----- === xxxxx XXXXX xxxxx === -----
> >>
> >>
> >>> From: gjergj.sheld...@gmail.com
> >>> To: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
> >>> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 23:09:49 +0200
> >>> Subject: Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2x and VoIP Asterisk
> >>>
> >>> Hi Marcelino,
> >>>
> >>> if you can avoid the voice recognition part and limit it to the minimum,
> >>> as you mention use the dial keys then it's perfect! :)
> >>>
> >>> so the "only" problems left are interfacing asterisk to c2x and the
> >>> scheduling.
> >>>
> >>> as for the asterisk <-> c2x communication an interesting option could be
> >>> to use xml-rpc calls. this since the libraries i've seen for asterisk to
> >>> communicate with php ( phpagi, asterisk php and asterisk php api ) have
> >>> to major drawbacks
> >>> - not properly ready for production ex here :
> >>> http://eder.us/projects/asterisk_php/
> >>> - and second, there's nothing that assures you that the developing of
> >>> those libraries will continue, risking to stall the future updates of
> >>> c2x for those systems.
> >>>
> >>> regarding the scheduler, we have to discuss a bit on the features that
> >>> are needed.
> >>>
> >>> regards
> >>> gjergj
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 12:31 -0500, Marcelino Mateos Palacios wrote:
> >>>> Hello GJ…
> >>>>
> >>>> In order to be able to use the telephonic appointment system, the user
> >>>> must already have an id (in this case we will use the file Id or even a
> >>>> Patient Id which is assigned by the system.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Usually, the user comes to the hospital when something hurts… In this
> >>>> first visit is when the receptionist will take the patient data and
> >>>> will introduce it into the system.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> After this, the user will be able to use the system (with the user Id
> >>>> given by the receptionist) to access the appointments system (via phone
> >>>> or web)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I’d like to use the phone because many of our patients (users) come
> >>>> from places where there is no internet and there are only a couple of
> >>>> telephonic lines are shared with all the people (towns with 100 or 200
> >>>> people).
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> The ASR will be used to acquire some data that are difficult to
> >>>> introduce with the phone, for example, the name or in cases where a
> >>>> pulse dial phone is used or where the people disables the keypad to
> >>>> prevent users to make unauthorized calls (is the technology present in
> >>>> our small Mexican towns), and the system will confirm that it
> >>>> understands what the user was trying to say.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> The rest of the process will be using the phone keypad (pres 1 to do
> >>>> something and 2 to make another)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Of course there will always be an option to reach and operator which
> >>>> will make the process if the user can’t (if you want to speak with our
> >>>> operator, say yes, or wait on the line). This was no conceived to make
> >>>> the receptionist work obsolete, it was made to reduce the work load and
> >>>> allow her to focus on other activities, for example, to drink more
> >>>> coffee or have more time to chat etc etc.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> This is my justification.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks for the comments and I will include this (with your permission)
> >>>> as part of my work justification with another common questions made by
> >>>> other people.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- === xxxxx XXXXX xxxxx === -----
> >>>> Marcelino Mateos Palacios.
> >>>> ----- === xxxxx XXXXX xxxxx === -----
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ----------------------------------------
> >>>>> From: gjergj.sheld...@gmail.com
> >>>>> To: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
> >>>>> Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 19:05:21 +0200
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2x and VoIP Asterisk
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hello Marcelino,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the way c2x works - the majority of theis kind of sw works - is that the
> >>>>> user has to be registered and admitted in an ambulatory / department
> >>>>> before he/she can access the services of a hospital, be it lab,
> >>>>> pharmacy, etc.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the first - and most difficult step - is going to be the scheduling of
> >>>>> the appointment for patient that are not registered in the system; there
> >>>>> are some fields that would need to be filled in for a registration to be
> >>>>> accepted by c2x. it's true that one can modify them and make it
> >>>>> acceptable without filling those forms..but is it correct ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> another - quick - thing, do you think it's a good idea to use voice
> >>>>> recognition in a medical environment ?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> regarding the scheduler and the lab analysis is not that difficult.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> gj.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sun, 2009-05-31 at 11:52 -0500, Marcelino Mateos Palacios wrote:
> >>>>>> Hello Enrique, Hi Gjergj
> >>>>>> Thanks for the answers.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The project is giving his first steps...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have some experience with asterisk and another IP PBX’s. I have 3 in
> >>>>>> production. The biggest has almost 70 extensions.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The process for install and configure asterisk in a lab environment is
> >>>>>> the first step (although I already have some experience with this.)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The Next… is to know the way care2x modify the tables and relations in
> >>>>>> the database (I will be querying Gjergj for this :-) )
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have no much experience with databases and php, (I have been working
> >>>>>> in the communications world) but the project will basically focuses on
> >>>>>> write the registers needed by care2x.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> We will use asterisk AGI language to make the interface from the PBX
> >>>>>> to the database. Is the same process and techniques used for asterisk
> >>>>>> to manage information from FreePBX and all the modules (there are a
> >>>>>> nice tutorial about how to do this with the call logs, known as CDR.)
> >>>>>> and I pretend use it to complete the project.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The last step will be to install and configure the "text to speech"
> >>>>>> and "automatic speech recognition" engines to interact with the user.
> >>>>>> I pretend to use a package known as Festival.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Although I’d like to use an “API” call “Loquendo VoxNauta”, (this has
> >>>>>> great voices) I have read that is too expensive.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> And the last step, is to put all together…
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> There will be some “intermediate steps” like intercommunicate two VoIP
> >>>>>> PBX (specifically, cisco call manager) and configure another stuff we
> >>>>>> have in the Lab and I’d like to use.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Officially, I will start the work this Monday June 1st and I will make
> >>>>>> one weekly report until mid November when I will present the work and
> >>>>>> defend the investigation to obtain my Master grade.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Wish me luck.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I’m from Oaxaca México and student from the Anahuac University, here
> >>>>>> in Oaxaca.
> >>>>>> ----- === xxxxx XXXXX xxxxx === -----
> >>>>>> Marcelino Mateos Palacios.
> >>>>>> ----- === xxxxx XXXXX xxxxx === -----
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ________________________________
> >>>>>>> Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 09:15:05 -0500
> >>>>>>> From: enri...@laentrada.com.mx
> >>>>>>> To: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2x and VoIP Asterisk
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi Marcelino,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'm from Mexico too. Id like to know more of your project. I already
> >>>>>>> installed an asterix PBX on laboratory's environment and, after ear a
> >>>>>>> spech from the POP, I want to modify my PBX in order to make some
> >>>>>>> kind of authomatic tasks. This is one interesting task to do. I'm in
> >>>>>>> DF. Where are you from?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thank you
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Enrique.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 2009/5/30 Gjergj Sheldija>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi Marcelino,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> i'm working exactly on this - the scheduling module - you can contact
> >>>>>>> me
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> directly on my mail to share what i've achieved until now and how it
> >>>>>>> may
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> help you.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> regards
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> gj.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Sat, 2009-05-30 at 17:38 -0500, Marcelino Mateos Palacios wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> “This project will use the open source, IP PBX “ASTERISK” as the
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> system core.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> It will be used the database of another open source GNU system known
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> as “Care2x” (a Hospital Information System or HIS), specifically, the
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> outpatient module.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The final objective will be to schedule an appointment using the
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> telephone and the possibility to call the user to remind him the date
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> and time.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> In a further stage, this will extend to laboratory studies and
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> radiology.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> All the general (and specific) tasks will be documented (photographs,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> diagrams, screenshots, and the most significant commands)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> There will be no a step by step guide, since the problems and
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> circumstances on each deployment, can vary in very significant ways,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> giving as result, the misdirection to the reader or obsolescence of
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> this work, (as many tutorials in the internet)”
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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