Hi Andrew,

I didn't find the "tick" for 'Use DSP48s for adders' in
the fft's parameters. where is it located?

Chao-Te


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---------- Original Message -----------
From: Andrew Martens <[email protected]>
To: Mark Wagner <[email protected]>
Cc: Chao-Te Li <[email protected]>, [email protected]
Sent: Mon, 3 May 2010 10:14:20 +0200
Subject: Re: [casper] casper Digest, Vol 30, Issue 1

> Hi Chao-Te
> 
> To save on DSP48Es in the FFT try the following
> 
> Un-tick the 'Use DSP48s for adders' (uses the adders in DSP48 blocks 
> to implement the twiddle stage in the FFT). Should save you 4 
> DSP48Es per FFT stage. Set the 'Optimization Target' to 
> 'Multipliers' (reduces the use of multipliers in the complex 
> multiplication). Should save you 1 DSP48E per FFT stage.
> 
> Good luck
> 
> Andrew
> 
> On 3 May 2010 07:59, Mark Wagner <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Chao-Te,
> >
> > The 100% utilization of DSP48's seems to be your problem.  I would try
> > using slices instead.
> > In the fft and pfb paramater box, you can do this by checking 'specify
> > multiplier use' and then entering in a vector that specifies the 
multipliers
> > you want to use. I think you want 'behavioral,' so if you have a 2^7 fft,
> > you would enter in: [2 2 2 2 2 2 2].
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> > On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 10:12 PM, Chao-Te Li <[email protected] that
> > unless you dig deep into the design, you're nota.edu.tw> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Mark,
> >>
> >> Thanks for the help.
> >> I copy the utility summary from MATLAB as follows -
> >>
> >> Device Utilization Summary:
> >>
> >>   Number of BUFGs                           3 out of 32      9%
> >>   Number of DCM_ADVs                        1 out of 12      8%
> >>   Number of DSP48Es                        64 out of 64    100%
> >>   Number of ILOGICs                        65 out of 800     8%
> >>   Number of External IOBs                  97 out of 640    15%
> >>      Number of LOCed IOBs                  97 out of 97    100%
> >>
> >>   Number of External IOBMs                  1 out of 320     1%
> >>      Number of LOCed IOBMs                  1 out of 1     100%
> >>
> >>   Number of External IOBSs                  1 out of 320     1%
> >>      Number of LOCed IOBSs                  1 out of 1     100%
> >>
> >>   Number of OLOGICs                         5 out of 800     1%
> >>   Number of RAMB18X2s                      50 out of 148    33%
> >>   Number of RAMB36_EXPs                    14 out of 148     9%
> >>   Number of Slice Registers             21382 out of 69120  30%
> >>      Number used as Flip Flops          21382
> >>      Number used as Latches                 0
> >>      Number used as LatchThrus              0
> >>
> >>   Number of Slice LUTS                  21127 out of 69120  30%
> >>   Number of Slice LUT-Flip Flop pairs   27717 out of 69120  40%
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> The model does use up all the DSP48Es (and some other devices).
> >> But they are at most 100%. So it's ok in terms of resources?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Chao-Te
> >>
> >>
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> >> ---------- Original Message -----------
> >> From: Mark Wagner <[email protected]>
> >> To: Chao-Te Li <[email protected]>
> >> Cc: [email protected]
> >> Sent: Sun, 2 May 2010 21:48:48 -0700
> >> Subject: Re: [casper] casper Digest, Vol 30, Issue 1
> >>
> >> > Hi Chao-Te,
> >> >
> >> > To answer you question, the xps executable should be in the EDK
> >> directory.
> >> >  For instance, ours is located here:
> >> >
> >> > /opt/Xilinx/11.1/EDK/bin/lin64/xps
> >> >
> >> > I haven't directly used xps on windows, but I think it should be
> >> something
> >> > like this:
> >> >
> >> > C:\Xilinx\10.1\EDK\bin\nt\xps.exe
> >> >
> >> > >From the XPS_ROACH_base directory on linux I run the command:
> >> >
> >> > $xps -nw system.xmp
> >> >
> >> > Although, before you try to remove this error, I would check to see
> >> > what the utilization report looks like and if you actually have the
> >> > resources to build the design.  You can find this report in:
> >> >
> >> > <model_directory>/XPS_ROACH_base/implementation/system_map.mrp
> >> >
> >> > The example spectrometer was designed for the sx95t and may not fit
> >> > on the lx110t (which doesn't have very many dsp48's).
> >> >
> >> > Mark
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 9:12 PM, Chao-Te Li
> >> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hi,
> >> > >
> >> > > I was compiling the wideband spectrometer from the 2009 tutorials.
> >> > > http://casper.berkeley.edu/wiki/Tutorials
> >> > >
> >> > > It was compilted well with ROACH:sx95t. but when I chose
> >> > > ROACH:lx110t, I got the following error message and suggestion -
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > xilperl D:/Xilinx/EDK/data/fpga_impl/observe_par.pl -error yes
> >> > > implementation/system.par
> >> > > Analyzing implementation/system.par
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >>
> >> 
*****************************************************************************
> >> > > ***
> >> > > ERROR: 1 constraint not met.
> >> > >
> >> > > PAR could not meet all timing constraints. A bitstream will not be
> >> > > generated.
> >> > >
> >> > > To disable the PAR timing check:
> >> > >
> >> > > 1> Disable the "Treat timing closure failure as error" option from 
the
> >> > > Project Options dialog in XPS.
> >> > >
> >> > > OR
> >> > >
> >> > > 2> Type following at the XPS prompt:
> >> > > XPS% xset enable_par_timing_error 0
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > How do I do to bring up the XPS or its prompt?
> >> > > Thanks.
> >> > >
> >> > >
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> >> > > > Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 17:15:22 -0400
> >> > > > From: dana whitlow <[email protected]>
> >> > > > Subject: Re: [casper] 'The Great Debate: Are We Alone?' (Tonight)
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> >> > > > Good idea- we'll just hook that right up.  Let's see now- should 
it
> >> > > > be 430 MHz or 2380 MHz?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Dana
> >> > > >
> >> > > > melvyn wright wrote:
> >> > > > > On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 12:13 PM, David Hawkins
> >> <[email protected]>
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> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >>> will the debate be recorded, and available later for humans or
> >> for
> >> > > LGMs ?
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> >> > > > >> Shouldn't we be blasting it out into space for the LGMs
> >> > > > >> to listen to live?
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> >> > > > >> :)
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > not according to
> >> > > > >
> >> http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/DC-Decoder/2010/0430/Stephen-
> >> > > Hawking-alien-warning-Could-we-talk-to-them
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > :-(
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > M.
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