> just as Dan says larger gauge cables are definitely recommended
> for longer runs.   The exact mapping of xx AWG to NN meters
> may be ill defined.  not just set by COTS switch but also
> when the Roach2 and SFP+ Mezzanine card are included in the mix.
>

We've had one particular brand of cables of ~1 meter length that has not
worked well for us.  I can't remember it offhand.  Jason, can you remember
which brand was lame?

John

>>From the FCI and Molex data sheets :
>
> FCI product family
>    10110818020xxLF : XX is length from 0.5 to  4.0meters : all 30 AWG
>    10110818030xxLF : XX is length from 0.5 to  5.0meters : all 28 AWG
>    10110818040xxLF : XX is length from 0.5 to  7.0meters : all 26 AWG
>    10110818050xxLF : XX is length from 0.5 to 10.0meters : all 24 AWG
>    use HFLF if need halogen free
>
> Molex product family
>    747520xxx : xxx is length from 0.3 to  5.0 meters : all 32 AWG
>    747521xxx : xxx is length from 0.3 to 10.0 meters : all 30 AWG
>    747522xxx : xxx is length from 0.3 to 15.0 meters : all 28 AWG
>    747523xxx : xxx is length from 0.5 to 10.0 meters : all 26 AWG
>    747524xxx : xxx is length from 0.5 to 15.0 meters : all 24 AWG
>    most longer lengths above 6.0 meters require system preemphasis
>    and/or equalization.
>
> last time I looked I had more trouble finding a 1m cable with 28AWG
> relative to the 30AWG version.
>
> PAPER hopes to start lab testing of bunches of 3m 30 AWG FCI cables
> next week.
>
>
>
> On Thu, 25 Jul 2013, Dan Werthimer wrote:
>
>> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 13:07:29 -0700
>> From: Dan Werthimer <[email protected]>
>> To: "Gary, Dale E." <[email protected]>
>> Cc: casper list <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [casper] SFP+ Cables
>>
>>
>> hi dale,
>> we've had good luck with copper SFP+ cables. 
>>
>> we've tested 1, 2 and 3 meter copper cables, 
>> from mellanox, amphenol and the FCI cables
>> that matt discusses below. 
>>
>> for 1 meter, any gauge will work, but for long
>> copper cables, i'm told that thicker gauge wires are
>> more reliable.   SFP+ cables are available with
>> 32,30,28,26 gauge wires.   we've been using 30 and 28
>> gauge.   i'd stay away from 32 gauge for long cables. 
>>
>> each switch manufacturer has a list of cables that
>> they have tested on their switch and they promise
>> those will work.   
>> so far all the cables we've purchased work fine on the various
>> switches we have, including the dell 8024F.  
>>
>> we've also had good luck with optical transceivers for SFP+.  
>> you can get these transceivers for long runs, up to 40km fiber links.  
>> the 10 and 40 km transceivers than the short run transceivers. 
>> you can also purchase dwdm and cwdm tranceivers with different
>> color lasers so you can put up to about 100 10Gbit links on a fiber. 
>>
>> best wishes,
>>
>> dan
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Matt Dexter <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>       Hi Dale,
>>
>>
>>       I have very little experience with SFP+ cables but have no
>>       plans to use active fiber optic links for my 1 to 3meter cable
>>       runs.
>>
>>       I've started to learn about such things as these passive copper
>>       3meter cables
>>         FCI China, 10110818-2030LF
>>
>> http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/10110818-2030LF/609-3977-ND/233349
>>       5
>>         price at 50 units is $23.06160  312 in stock on 2013jul25
>>       Digikey also has
>>       a) FCI 78 0.5m long versions at $20.22 @ qty 50  (july 15)
>>       b) FCI 30 5m long 28 awg at $27.5626 @ qty 50    (july 15)
>>
>>       other searches I've used
>>       http://components.arrow.com/part/search/sfp+/%5E4/79/944?in_stock=on
>>
>>       http://www.mouser.com/Wire-Cable/Cable-Assemblies/
>>       filter based on SFP+, 1..3 meters
>>       11 matches if select stocked
>>       FCI 10110818-2030LF  3m < $27 qty 50 (2013jul15 12 in stock)
>>       Molex 74752-2301     3m < $36 qty 50 (2013jul15 13 in stock)
>>       TE connectivity/AMP  3m  30 AWG $44 qty 50 (2013jul15 16 in
>>       stock)
>>       TE connectivity/AMP  3m  24 AWG < $43 qty 50 (2013jul15 4 in
>>       stock)
>>
>>       I can't recall the details but weren't there some reports of
>>       issues with some particular
>>       brand of "short", maybe less than 1m, cables ?
>>
>>       HTH,
>>       Matt
>>
>>
>>       On Thu, 25 Jul 2013, Gary, Dale E. wrote:
>>
>>             Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 17:10:52 +0000
>>             From: "Gary, Dale E." <[email protected]>
>>             To: casper list <[email protected]>
>>             Subject: [casper] SFP+ Cables
>>
>>             Hi All,
>>
>>             I need to order the cables for connecting our ROACH2
>>             SFP+ mezzanine cards to
>>             a 10GBE swtich.  We need only 1 m cables.  I find
>>             some rather cheap "passive
>>             copper"
>> cables(e.g.http://www.cablesondemand.com/pcategory/91/category/SFP%2B+CBL/URvars/
>>             Catal
>> og/Library/InfoManage/SFP+_CABLES_%28DIRECT_ATTACH%29.htm?gclid=CMSTkrqNy7g
>>
>>             CFYdxQgodhnkAuw), but will these work, or do I need
>>             optical cables with
>>             tranceivers on each end?  Seems overkill for 1 m! 
>>             The 10 GBe switch is not
>>             yet defined, but I am looking for surplus Dell 8024F
>>             switches recommended by
>>             Dan W.
>>
>>             Thanks,
>>             Dale
>>
>>
>>
>>



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