As one data point I'm successfully compiling designs w/o the fixed point
toolboxes. I haven't tried simulating a large design which is where it's
claimed to be needed with busses wider than 53 bits or whatever it is
On Sep 17, 2013 7:15 PM, "Jonathan Weintroub" <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi fellow CASPERians,
>
> This is a question that comes up periodically.  At SAO we are now paying
> full fare for Matlab licenses so the cost impact of an imperfect
> understanding can be significant.
>
> The latest MSSGE wiki page is:
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> https://casper.berkeley.edu/wiki/MSSGE_Setup_with_Xilinx_14.5_and_Matlab_2012b
>
> However this page does not mention Matlab optional components
> (historically termed toolboxes and blocksets).
>
> There are clues in an earlier setup page:
>
> https://casper.berkeley.edu/wiki/MSSGE_Toolflow_Setup
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> from which it appears one needs something like:
>
> Fixed-Point Toolbox
>
> Signal Processing Blockset
>
> Signal Processing Toolbox
>
> Simulink Fixed Point
>
>
> Each time I buy a new license I iterate on these components with the
> Matlab distributer.  The terminology changes year by year and I am
> currently being quoted on the following components, in addition to the base
> Matlab and Simulink distributions:
>
> SIGNAL PROCESSING TOOLBOX, V2013A
>
> SIMULINK FIXED POINT, V2012B
>
> DSP SYSTEM TOOLBOX, V2013A
>
> FIXED-POINT DESIGNER TOOLBOX, V2013A,
>
> (sorry about the all-caps which pasted in directly from the quotation).
>
> So it is still four components, but the names have changed. The term
> blockset seems to have evolved out in favor of toolbox, one of the "signal
> processing"s has morphed into "DSP", and the fixed point toolbox now has
> "designer".  Appropriately enough the price for this latter "designer"
> component alone has more than doubled in a year to over $2k per seat.
>
> Having set the scene, my two questions are:
>
> 1.  Are we ordering the right components?
>
> 2.  Do we really need all these components?
> (At one point I seem to recall hearing the fixed point stuff is to some
> extent optional, though the ability to simulate properly at the Simulink
> level is important to us.)
>
> Subject to confirmation from the tool flow experts, I will be happy to
> update the wiki notes with current information.
>
> Thanks,
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> Jonathan
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