Hi, Nimish,

What error messages are you getting?

Thanks,
Dave

On Sep 24, 2013, at 2:28 PM, Nimish Sane wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> A question related to this:
> 
> Like Glenn, we never had Fixed point toolboxes (Fixed point Toolbox and 
> Simulink Fixed point) installed, and still were able to compile our 
> correlator designs using 11.5 and Matlab2009b.
> 
> I recently upgraded to ISE 14.5 with Matlab 2012b as well as upgraded 
> libraries to the latest version of casper-astro/mlib_devel. Even in the 
> current installation, we do not have Fixed point toolboxes (names have 
> changed to Fixed-point designer Toolbox, Simulink Fixed-point as Jonathan has 
> mentioned).
> 
> The current fft_wideband_real block has some differences compared to the 
> older version that I was using so far and it seems it now requires 
> Fixed-point Toolbox. I am getting errors that this particular toolbox has not 
> been installed. I am not sure if there are other blocks that give similar 
> errors. Does anyone have any experience with this and provide some insight as 
> to how to deal with this situation?
> 
> Specifically,
> (1) Is there any way to use the latest fft_wideband_real block without 
> Fixed-point Toolboxes? (Glenn, have you tried this?)
> (2) Does one have to install both the Fixed-point toolboxes (Fixed-point 
> designer Toolbox, Simulink Fixed-point) or just the Fixed-point designer 
> Toolbox? 
> 
> (I have attached lists of toolboxes in our previous and current installation.)
> 
> Thanks a lot,
> 
> Nimish
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 7:20 PM, G Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
> As one data point I'm successfully compiling designs w/o the fixed point 
> toolboxes. I haven't tried simulating a large design which is where it's 
> claimed to be needed with busses wider than 53 bits or whatever it is
> 
> On Sep 17, 2013 7:15 PM, "Jonathan Weintroub" <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> Hi fellow CASPERians,
> 
> This is a question that comes up periodically.  At SAO we are now paying full 
> fare for Matlab licenses so the cost impact of an imperfect understanding can 
> be significant.
> 
> The latest MSSGE wiki page is:
> 
> https://casper.berkeley.edu/wiki/MSSGE_Setup_with_Xilinx_14.5_and_Matlab_2012b
> 
> However this page does not mention Matlab optional components (historically 
> termed toolboxes and blocksets).
> 
> There are clues in an earlier setup page:
> 
> https://casper.berkeley.edu/wiki/MSSGE_Toolflow_Setup
> 
> from which it appears one needs something like:
> 
> Fixed-Point Toolbox
> 
> Signal Processing Blockset
> 
> Signal Processing Toolbox
> 
> Simulink Fixed Point
> 
> 
> Each time I buy a new license I iterate on these components with the Matlab 
> distributer.  The terminology changes year by year and I am currently being 
> quoted on the following components, in addition to the base Matlab and 
> Simulink distributions:
> 
> SIGNAL PROCESSING TOOLBOX, V2013A
> 
> SIMULINK FIXED POINT, V2012B
> 
> DSP SYSTEM TOOLBOX, V2013A
> 
> FIXED-POINT DESIGNER TOOLBOX, V2013A,
> 
> (sorry about the all-caps which pasted in directly from the quotation).
> 
> So it is still four components, but the names have changed. The term blockset 
> seems to have evolved out in favor of toolbox, one of the "signal 
> processing"s has morphed into "DSP", and the fixed point toolbox now has 
> "designer".  Appropriately enough the price for this latter "designer" 
> component alone has more than doubled in a year to over $2k per seat.
> 
> Having set the scene, my two questions are:
> 
> 1.  Are we ordering the right components?
> 
> 2.  Do we really need all these components?
> (At one point I seem to recall hearing the fixed point stuff is to some 
> extent optional, though the ability to simulate properly at the Simulink 
> level is important to us.)
> 
> Subject to confirmation from the tool flow experts, I will be happy to update 
> the wiki notes with current information.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jonathan
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