Hi Dan,

This is the first I’ve heard of a ~$2K RFSoC education board.  I couldn’t find 
any information with a quick web search.  Does it have a part number?

Is information available from Xilinx, or is it a hush-hush thing?

Regards,

Ross


> On Oct 26, 2020, at 11:32 AM, Dan Werthimer <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> hi gareth, 
> 
> can you tell us a bit more about your project?
> sample rate?  number of ADC bits?  number of ADC's?  ADC analog bandwidth ? 
> then people might be able to provide better advice. 
> 
> some random thoughts: 
> 
> you probably know the SNAP board has a ZDOC connector on it, 
> so the old CASPER ZDOC ADC's can plug into SNAP (except for the dual ZDOC 64 
> ADC board),
> see ADC list at 
> https://github.com/casper-astro/casper-hardware#casper-hardware 
> <https://github.com/casper-astro/casper-hardware#casper-hardware>
> but casper doesn't have all the yellow blocks for all of these ADC boards to 
> run on SNAP - 
> you might need to do some yellow block development, depending on which ADC 
> board you want. 
> 
> if this is for a correlator, and you want to use an RFSOC board, make sure 
> that board
> can sync with other RFSOC boards so all the boards sample at the same phase.
> the 8 input ZCU111 board can not sync with other boards, but the ZCU216 can. 
> i think most of the newer commercial RFSOC boards can sync.
> mitch has evaluated several of RFSOC boards and has tested a few boards for 
> sync capabiltity.   
> 
> if you want a cheap 4 Gsps dual 12 bit RFSOC board, xilinx has a $2K RFSOC 
> education board
> they said they could make this board available at high quantities to casper 
> collaborators.  
>  
> there's a quad 15 Gsps 4 bit FMC ADC board developed by jonathan weintroub's 
> group and rick_raffanti. 
> wei liu is working on a yellow block for this board. 
> and there's a single 15 Gsps 4 bit board developed by ASIAA. 
> 
> there is a dual ~5Gsps, or single ~10Gsps ~12 bit TI ADC board developed by 
> JPL. 
> there's a dual 10.6 Gsps ~10 bit AD ADC board under development at GBO. 
> 
> best wishes,
> 
> dan
> 
> 
> Dan Werthimer
> Marilyn and Watson Alberts Chair
> Astronomy Dept and Space Sciences Lab
> University of California, Berkeley
> 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 5:50 AM Gareth Callanan <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Hi Casper Community
> 
> Now that roach2 has been deprecated, I have been wondering where the CASPER 
> community is heading in terms of future ADC work.
> 
> As far as I can tell there are three options available:
> SNAP boards - The SNAP boards seem to support the largest number of options 
> 12 x 250 Msps/ 6 x 500 MSps or 3 x 1000 Msps. SNAP is used by HERA, but I 
> don't think it is used anywhere else.
> SKARAB and the SKARAB ADC - The SKARAB ADC can sample at up to 3 GSps. From 
> what I can tell, it does not seem to be widely used. I imagine it would be 
> quite an expensive configuration.
> ZCU111 RFSoC - The ZCU111 RFSoC seems to be a good board for experimentation, 
> but if we wanted to build a many antenna array (N > 100), XIlinx may not be 
> quite able/willing to provide us with that many dev boards.
> Alternatively, maybe there is some cheap FMC ADC out there that could make 
> everyone happy? (Although then we would need to find an FMC carrier card)
> 
> From the options available, it seems to me that SNAP is the board that is 
> most likely to be deployed in a large array, and the ZCU111 board is what is 
> most likely to be used in labs/small arrays.
> 
> Is that a correct read of what is available? Or are there other projects in 
> the works?
> 
> We have cheap COTS options for building X/F-Engines. As far as I can tell, an 
> easily accessible ADC board is the main bottleneck to quickly 
> prototyping/building a correlator.
> 
> Gareth Callanan
> Digital Signal Processing Engineer
> South African Radio Astronomy Observatory(SARAO)
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