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2010/1/25 Roelof Blom <[email protected]>

> Perhaps I am overlooking an obvious button, but how do you become a forum
> member?
>
> 2010/1/25 Jonathon Rossi <[email protected]>
>
>> We now have a zoho discussion board:
>> http://discussions.zoho.com/castleproject
>>
>> I am already finding things that are missing, hopefully the Zoho team is
>> responsive with feedback.
>>
>> 2010/1/25 Jonathon Rossi <[email protected]>
>>
>> OK. I'll contact Zoho to set up an open source account.
>>>
>>> 2010/1/25 Krzysztof Koźmic (2) <[email protected]>
>>>
>>> I'm at work right now, so I can't really do it.
>>>> So if you or John want to step up, be my guest.
>>>>
>>>> Krzysztof
>>>>
>>>> On 25 Sty, 09:19, Jonathon Rossi <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> > I agree. If it works well then we can continue using it and get our
>>>> data
>>>> > migrated, if it doesn't we provide feedback so they can improve it.
>>>> >
>>>> > I assume either you Krzysztof (because you brought it up) or John is
>>>> going
>>>> > to create an account.
>>>> >
>>>> > 2010/1/25 Krzysztof Koźmic (2) <[email protected]>
>>>> >
>>>> > > I say we give it a shot.
>>>> > > Let's set up a test forum and see for ourselves, and then we decide
>>>> > > whether we make the move or not.
>>>> >
>>>> > > On 25 Sty, 06:18, John Simons <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> > > > So what is the verdict, are we going to move the user's mailing
>>>> list
>>>> > > > to Zoho?
>>>> >
>>>> > > > Cheers
>>>> > > > John
>>>> >
>>>> > > > On Jan 23, 9:58 pm, Jonathon Rossi <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > I think it might just be that we haven't had a chance to play
>>>> with Zoho
>>>> > > to
>>>> > > > > know if it really suits our needs. I like UV because it has been
>>>> > > working
>>>> > > > > really well for us. Does the ideas page in Zoho allow you to
>>>> sort by
>>>> > > votes,
>>>> > > > > I couldn't find anything for this?
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > Krzysztof asked the following. Dhan, are you able to provide any
>>>> > > details of
>>>> > > > > whether Zoho has the functionality to add a poll into an
>>>> existing
>>>> > > > > discussion.
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > I'm wondering if such voting +1/-1/0 functionality is built in
>>>> into
>>>> > > Zoho ;D
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Dhan
>>>> > > > > <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > What specific feature of User Voice are you looking at? We
>>>> have a
>>>> > > > > > feedback widget that can be popped up either by links or via a
>>>> > > > > > contrast colored floater widget. What other features of User
>>>> Voice is
>>>> > > > > > a show stopper for your needs?
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > On Jan 23, 2:47 pm, Krzysztof Koźmic <
>>>> [email protected]>
>>>> > > > > > wrote:
>>>> > > > > > > I'm +1,
>>>> > > > > > > We don't have the abandon the google group just yet,
>>>> although if we
>>>> > > get
>>>> > > > > > > going with Zoho
>>>> > > > > > > as we gradually customize it to our needs, I think we'll all
>>>> find
>>>> > > it
>>>> > > > > > > more useful than google.
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > > Also as Jono mentioned it looks like at the moment uservoice
>>>> is
>>>> > > better
>>>> > > > > > > at where they overlap
>>>> > > > > > > so we might want to stick to uservoice for some time after
>>>> that,
>>>> > > and see
>>>> > > > > > > how things develop.
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > > The UV-like functionality in Zoho was just added.
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > > Krzysztof.
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > > (PS)
>>>> > > > > > > I'm wondering if such voting +1/-1/0 functionality is built
>>>> in into
>>>> > > Zoho
>>>> > > > > > ;D
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > > On 2010-01-23 10:31, Roelof Blom wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > > > +1
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > > > On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 5:20 AM, John Simons
>>>> > > > > > > > <[email protected] <mailto:
>>>> [email protected]>>
>>>> > > > > > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > > >     Yes we can just start with the users mailing list, but
>>>> I
>>>> > > would
>>>> > > > > > > >     eventually bring both across because of the number of
>>>> extra
>>>> > > > > > features
>>>> > > > > > > >     Zoho provide us.
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > > >     I would not say that development mailing list is
>>>> serving us
>>>> > > that
>>>> > > > > > well
>>>> > > > > > > >     either. I think it has the same problem of not being
>>>> able to
>>>> > > tag
>>>> > > > > > > >     discussions per topic and the way we do voting, and it
>>>> has no
>>>> > > way
>>>> > > > > > of
>>>> > > > > > > >     subscribing to discussion topics.
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > > >     I think both lists would benefit from the features
>>>> Zoho
>>>> > > provides.
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > > >     Cheers
>>>> > > > > > > >     John
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > > >     On Jan 23, 3:02 pm, Jonathon Rossi <
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> > > > > > > >     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> > > > > > > >     > So are we talking about changing only the users
>>>> mailing
>>>> > > list,
>>>> > > > > > > >     not the
>>>> > > > > > > >     > development mailing list. I agree the users mailing
>>>> list
>>>> > > doesn't
>>>> > > > > > > >     fit our
>>>> > > > > > > >     > users very well, however the development mailing
>>>> list works
>>>> > > well.
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > > >     > On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 1:47 PM, John Simons
>>>> > > > > > > >     <[email protected] <mailto:
>>>> > > [email protected]
>>>> > > > > > >>wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > > >     > > Everyone,
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > > >     > > I don't know about everyone's experience with the
>>>> google
>>>> > > > > > > >     mailing list,
>>>> > > > > > > >     > > but in my opinion it doesn't meet our
>>>> requirements,
>>>> > > specially
>>>> > > > > > the
>>>> > > > > > > >     > > users.
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > > >     > > The majority of threads in the User's mailing list
>>>> is
>>>> > > "How do
>>>> > > > > > > >     I do X?"
>>>> > > > > > > >     > > and then someone posts a solution.
>>>> > > > > > > >     > > The problem with this is that we have no idea what
>>>> the
>>>> > > question
>>>> > > > > > is
>>>> > > > > > > >     > > about until we read it and if the solution is
>>>> correct or
>>>> > > not.
>>>> > > > > > > >     > > Begin able to tag questions per topic (same way SO
>>>> does
>>>> > > it)
>>>> > > > > > > >     and mark
>>>> > > > > > > >     > > them as solved is essential for any support system
>>>> (like
>>>> > > it or
>>>> > > > > > > >     not the
>>>> > > > > > > >     > > users mailing list is our support system) ,
>>>> Actually
>>>> > > people to
>>>> > > > > > get
>>>> > > > > > > >     > > around this limitation have started using the
>>>> title of
>>>> > > the
>>>> > > > > > > >     post as a
>>>> > > > > > > >     > > tagging mechanism eg [MonoRail] or [ActiveRecord].
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > > >     > > This limitation is also creating a lot of repeated
>>>> > > > > > > >     questions/answers,
>>>> > > > > > > >     > > if you don;t believe me do a bit of browsing on
>>>> the users
>>>> > > > > > mailing
>>>> > > > > > > >     > > list.
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > > >     > > So, I would like to turn this thread into a voting
>>>> one,
>>>> > > and
>>>> > > > > > > >     propose
>>>> > > > > > > >     > > that we cast a vote to change mailing list to
>>>> something
>>>> > > that
>>>> > > > > > > >     better
>>>> > > > > > > >     > > meets our requirements and in turn give out
>>>> Users/Clients
>>>> > > a
>>>> > > > > > better
>>>> > > > > > > >     > > experience.
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > > >     > > +1 from me
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > > >     > > Cheers
>>>> > > > > > > >     > > John
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > > >     > > On Jan 22, 12:04 am, Krzysztof Koźmic (2) <
>>>> > > [email protected]
>>>> > > > > > > >     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> > > > > > > >     > > > In order.
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > > >     > > > 1. When you look at it, most questions on User
>>>> group
>>>> > > are
>>>> > > > > > > >     from one-to-
>>>> > > > > > > >     > > > few times visitors.
>>>> > > > > > > >     > > > They can then either subscribe to rss feeds or
>>>> > > notifications
>>>> > > > > > > >     about
>>>> > > > > > > >     > > > topics they've started
>>>> > > > > > > >     > > > or just see that through web interface.
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > > >     > > > 2. Do you know if you can convert a question
>>>> into a
>>>> > > problem?
>>>> > > > > > > >     - No I
>>>> > > > > > > >     > > > don't. We'd have to check.
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > > >     > > > 3. Only problem is that I think UV is nicer. - I
>>>> agree.
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > > >     > > > 4. Do you know if Zoho has an option like google
>>>> groups
>>>> > > to
>>>> > > > > > > >     email you
>>>> > > > > > > >     > > > each email that arrives which you can then reply
>>>> to?
>>>> > > > > > > >     > > > I'm pretty sure they do. See "Email to Post /
>>>> Email
>>>> > > Drop box"
>>>> > > > > > on
>>>> > > > > > > >     > > > features site.
>>>> >
>>>> > > > > > > >     > > > Krzysztof
>>>> >
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