Comments inline. 2010/9/1 Krzysztof Koźmic <[email protected]>: > Thanks Michael - that's the kind of feedback we're looking for. > > 1. I agree about the main page. I suck at UI, but I tried to make it a > little bit more accessible by adding the links at the top. I agree > completely though - we should have the links to projects on the left side > menu.
Hmm, now that you point those top links out (on the black background), I see them. They are basically invisible the way I scan a page. I can't easily describe why I didn't see them, but maybe it has something to do with lack of white space in the upper left corner of the page. I don't know if a bigger font and/or different foreground/background colors would help, I guess a designer would help there! ;) > 2. Search should be brought to a more visible spot on the page. It took me a while to find the search box after reading just now that there was one. Again, I completely missed that it was there and when looking for a search box, my eyes were much more drawn to the login combo box in the upper right, which obviously can't be used for search. In general, I don't trust in-site search and go to Google anyway, so no big loss for me here. > 3. Anything else that you find particularily hard to deal with? And not just > problems - if you have suggestions as well how to improve that - we're all > ears :) I'm not a UI designer type person at all, so I probably can't help much more than I already have. > The STW when done will be integrated with the main site (replace it?) so yes > - linking to > > http://www.castleproject.org/ > > is the right thing I guess. Okay, thanks for the clarification. Hopefully the URL stuff works itself out eventually. > > cheers and thanks again for the feedback. > Krzysztof > > On 1/09/2010 8:41 PM, Michael Maddox wrote: >> >> This may come across as complaining, but I'm really just trying to >> address Henry's "it seems that people isn't accessing the inner pages >> of stw" comment from my personal perspective. >> >> ScrewTurn Wiki, IMHO, has horrible default navigation. >> >> If I go to: >> >> http://stw.castleproject.org/ >> >> And look at the left navigation panel, I don't see a link for >> ActiveRecord (or anything useful really). In fact, visually scanning >> the landing page, it's hard to find the ActiveRecord link. >> >> I think it's not very inviting to users to drill down. I blame this >> completely on ScrewTurn Wiki and it's the main reason I won't >> recommend that product even though I know it is one of the better .NET >> Wikis. The Castle project is the first attempt I've seen to >> workaround STW's navigation issues that has had any amount of success >> (if I work at it, I can find what I want eventually). >> >> For comparison, if I go to this page: >> >> http://www.castleproject.org/ >> >> The projects link at the top seems like the place to find ActiveRecord >> and I am rewarded for clicking on it (assuming I don't bother to >> scroll down on the first landing page). >> >> Moving on... I find this page: >> >> http://www.castleproject.org/activerecord/documentation/trunk/index.html >> >> Much easier to deal with than this one: >> >> http://stw.castleproject.org/Active%20Record.MainPage.ashx >> >> Although the graphical design of the former helps, I think the >> formatting and collection of links could be somewhat replicated in STW >> without involving a designer (time and effort not withstanding). >> >> Honestly, as a documentation user, I avoid the STW site if possible >> even though I know the content is more likely to be accurate / up to >> date, because I find it unpleasant (primarily due to navigation and >> incompleteness of the move). >> >> I'm very appreciative of the effort that has gone into the STW site to >> date. That said, not enough work has gone into it yet that I will use >> it *first*. >> >> One other thing related to the STW site: I'm hesitant to put links to >> http://stw.castleproject.org/ on my blog, etc. as I know that URL will >> eventually change. I figure the http://www.castleproject.org/ URLs >> are safer to link to even though I don't really have any evidence to >> support that belief. While you would probably rather I link to the >> latest documentation, I'm instead intentionally choosing to link to >> what I believe is a more future-proof URL. >> >> -Michael Maddox >> http://www.Capprime.com/About.htm >> >> 2010/8/31 Henry Conceição<[email protected]>: >>> >>> No, I'm not. The stw has some link(s) to using. Also there are >>> bookmarks, blog posts, etc. Even after the link remotion of the using >>> and the switch to stw, using has almost twice more visitors than stw. >>> >>> The api site is almost dead, we practically don't receive visitors >>> there. So it isn't a big deal. >>> >>> We should only remove the current project main pages after we fix the >>> wiki layout, imho. >>> >>> But what concerns me the most, is that it seems that people isn't >>> accessing the inner pages of stw. I don't know the exact reason: maybe >>> they googled the wrong result, maybe they couldn't find what they >>> want, maybe they found it clumsy and left. Check the reports: >>> >>> >>> https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B32splxWlkuqNTdhOWViMmUtYTBjZi00Y2ZhLWJkZGItYTkxYzMwN2U1ZWE2&sort=name&layout=list&num=50 >>> >>> https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B32splxWlkuqMTJjOTgwYWUtZjlkZC00NDQ1LWFiZTgtZWU3N2M4ZjQ3ZWJm&sort=name&layout=list&num=50 >>> >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Henry Conceição > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Castle Project Development List" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/castle-project-devel?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Castle Project Development List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. 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