Here is a reason, a bug in any of those facilities requires a whole release of Windsor, which means an update to all Windsor users even if they do not use the affected facility. I think that is not user friendly at all.
Cheers John ________________________________ From: Krzysztof Koźmic <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, 22 September, 2010 4:53:33 PM Subject: Re: Projects release saga I don't think we really can do anything about it. And since pretty much any other project depends on Core AND DynamicProxy or Dictionary Adapter (and not just within Castle) at least having single project to update instead of multiple means we have less work to do. But anyway - we've diverged from the topic and main question, which was - how bringing some facilities to Windsor's repository will affect it negatively? cheers, Krzysztof 2010/9/22 Henry Conceição <[email protected]> Same here. > >Cheers, >Henry Conceição > > > > >On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 2:17 AM, John Simons <[email protected]> wrote: >> In my opinion Core is changing too much too frequently, and that is because >> it has too much in it! >> >> I don't have the magic answer, but I don't think packaging/merging as many >> things together is the correct solution. >> >> Cheers >> John >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Henry Conceição <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Wed, 22 September, 2010 4:06:40 PM >> Subject: Re: Projects release saga >> >> Mixed feelings. >> >> It's easier for sure, but each time the Windsor and Core projects are taking >> more burden hosting project's like these. The last release contains: >> core, windsor, microkernel, dynamicproxy, dictionary adapter and >> synchronize/event/startable/remoting/logging facilities. >> >> Cheers, >> Henry Conceição >> >> >> >> 2010/9/22 Krzysztof Koźmic <[email protected]>: >>> I'm just for merging projects where it makes sense. >>> And since stuff like ATM facility does not get much development anyway >>> it's >>> not really worth it to keep it separate. What do you think? >>> >>> 2010/9/22 Henry Conceição <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> Well, at this pace will be back to old repo/single release model soon ;-) >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Henry Conceição >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2010/9/22 Krzysztof Koźmic <[email protected]>: >>>> > ok, thanks! >>>> > >>>> > is there a reason NOT to keep some of the stuff outside of Windsor's >>>> > repository/project? >>>> > >>>> > That way we would release them together with Windsor and managing them >>>> > would >>>> > be a bit easier (same like with Logging Facility and >>>> > SynchronizeFacility) >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > 2010/9/22 Henry Conceição <[email protected]> >>>> >> >>>> >> Not the validator assembly itself, but the validator tests projects >>>> >> have. >>>> >> >>>> >> I did update most of them today, only monorail and ar facility are >>>> >> pending. >>>> >> >>>> >> Cheers, >>>> >> Henry Conceição >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> 2010/9/22 Krzysztof Koźmic <[email protected]>: >>>> >> > Does validator have dependency on Core? >>>> >> > >>>> >> > 2010/9/22 Henry Conceição <[email protected]> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> The AR Facility is, but to update it, you must start the path from >>>> >> >> NHibernate.ByteCode provider, Validator, AR, Services Transaction, >>>> >> >> ATM >>>> >> >> facility and them AR Facility. >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> And following the logic of release each project, you can't release >>>> >> >> the >>>> >> >> AR Facility before the release of Validator, AR, Services TX and >>>> >> >> ATM. >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> Cheers, >>>> >> >> Henry Conceição >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 1:41 AM, John Simons >>>> >> >> <[email protected]> >>>> >> >> wrote: >>>> >> >> > Yes that's right. >>>> >> >> > But at the moment these integration projects are not separate and >>>> >> >> > I >>>> >> >> > think >>>> >> >> > they need to be for this to work! >>>> >> >> > >>>> >> >> > Yes I agree, the integration projects need to stand on their own. >>>> >> >> > >>>> >> >> > John >>>> >> >> > >>>> >> >> > ________________________________ >>>> >> >> > From: Krzysztof Koźmic <[email protected]> >>>> >> >> > To: [email protected] >>>> >> >> > Sent: Wed, 22 September, 2010 3:27:18 PM >>>> >> >> > Subject: Re: Projects release saga >>>> >> >> > >>>> >> >> > John - I think the proposed solution some time ago was that >>>> >> >> > whoever >>>> >> >> > releases >>>> >> >> > one of the major projects (Windsor, AR, MR) should also update >>>> >> >> > integration >>>> >> >> > projects for the other projects. >>>> >> >> > >>>> >> >> > As such I will look at updating MR integration and AR integration >>>> >> >> > today. >>>> >> >> > We >>>> >> >> > should also make these projects more visible so that it's easy to >>>> >> >> > find >>>> >> >> > them >>>> >> >> > when someone needs them. >>>> >> >> > >>>> >> >> > W dniu 22 września 2010 15:25 użytkownik Krzysztof Koźmic >>>> >> >> > <[email protected]> napisał: >>>> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> We should also have a serious look at automating as much of the >>>> >> >> >> process >>>> >> >> >> as >>>> >> >> >> possible. It still is a PITA and requires too much manual error >>>> >> >> >> prone >>>> >> >> >> work. >>>> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> 2010/9/22 Henry Conceição <[email protected]> >>>> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> That we not do an official release (branching, uploading >>>> >> >> >>> packages, >>>> >> >> >>> and >>>> >> >> >>> the process that you described some time aga) for the small >>>> >> >> >>> projects >>>> >> >> >>> (validator, binder, etc). Just include the binaries on the >>>> >> >> >>> Monorail >>>> >> >> >>> package, and maybe pin the builds or create a branch. >>>> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> Cheers, >>>> >> >> >>> Henry Conceição >>>> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> 2010/9/22 Krzysztof Koźmic <[email protected]>: >>>> >> >> >>> > What do you mean >>>> >> >> >>> >> do we need to release the small projects? >>>> >> >> >>> > >>>> >> >> >>> > ? >>>> >> >> >>> > >>>> >> >> >>> > 2010/9/22 Henry Conceição <[email protected]> >>>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> >>> >> On the windsor release thread, John asked: >>>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> >>> >> "Are all MR dependencies going to have an official release >>>> >> >> >>> >> compiled >>>> >> >> >>> >> against 2.5 ?" >>>> >> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >> >>> >> I was thinking about that and another question came to me: >>>> >> >> >>> >> do >>>> >> >> >>> >> we >>>> >> >> >>> >> need >>>> >> >> >>> >> to release the small projects? 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