Why would they update if all that's changed is a facility they don't even use?
2010/9/22 John Simons <[email protected]> > Here is a reason, a bug in any of those facilities requires a whole release > of Windsor, which means an update to all Windsor users even if they do not > use the affected facility. > I think that is not user friendly at all. > > Cheers > John > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Krzysztof Koźmic <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Wed, 22 September, 2010 4:53:33 PM > > *Subject:* Re: Projects release saga > > I don't think we really can do anything about it. And since pretty much any > other project depends on Core AND DynamicProxy or Dictionary Adapter (and > not just within Castle) at least having single project to update instead of > multiple means we have less work to do. > > But anyway - we've diverged from the topic and main question, which was - > how bringing some facilities to Windsor's repository will affect it > negatively? > > cheers, > Krzysztof > > 2010/9/22 Henry Conceição <[email protected]> > >> Same here. >> >> Cheers, >> Henry Conceição >> >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 2:17 AM, John Simons <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > In my opinion Core is changing too much too frequently, and that is >> because >> > it has too much in it! >> > >> > I don't have the magic answer, but I don't think packaging/merging as >> many >> > things together is the correct solution. >> > >> > Cheers >> > John >> > >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > From: Henry Conceição <[email protected]> >> > To: [email protected] >> > Sent: Wed, 22 September, 2010 4:06:40 PM >> > Subject: Re: Projects release saga >> > >> > Mixed feelings. >> > >> > It's easier for sure, but each time the Windsor and Core projects are >> taking >> > more burden hosting project's like these. The last release contains: >> > core, windsor, microkernel, dynamicproxy, dictionary adapter and >> > synchronize/event/startable/remoting/logging facilities. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Henry Conceição >> > >> > >> > >> > 2010/9/22 Krzysztof Koźmic <[email protected]>: >> >> I'm just for merging projects where it makes sense. >> >> And since stuff like ATM facility does not get much development anyway >> >> it's >> >> not really worth it to keep it separate. What do you think? >> >> >> >> 2010/9/22 Henry Conceição <[email protected]> >> >>> >> >>> Well, at this pace will be back to old repo/single release model soon >> ;-) >> >>> >> >>> Cheers, >> >>> Henry Conceição >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> 2010/9/22 Krzysztof Koźmic <[email protected]>: >> >>> > ok, thanks! >> >>> > >> >>> > is there a reason NOT to keep some of the stuff outside of Windsor's >> >>> > repository/project? >> >>> > >> >>> > That way we would release them together with Windsor and managing >> them >> >>> > would >> >>> > be a bit easier (same like with Logging Facility and >> >>> > SynchronizeFacility) >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > 2010/9/22 Henry Conceição <[email protected]> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Not the validator assembly itself, but the validator tests projects >> >>> >> have. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> I did update most of them today, only monorail and ar facility are >> >>> >> pending. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Cheers, >> >>> >> Henry Conceição >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> 2010/9/22 Krzysztof Koźmic <[email protected]>: >> >>> >> > Does validator have dependency on Core? >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > 2010/9/22 Henry Conceição <[email protected]> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> The AR Facility is, but to update it, you must start the path >> from >> >>> >> >> NHibernate.ByteCode provider, Validator, AR, Services >> Transaction, >> >>> >> >> ATM >> >>> >> >> facility and them AR Facility. >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> And following the logic of release each project, you can't >> release >> >>> >> >> the >> >>> >> >> AR Facility before the release of Validator, AR, Services TX and >> >>> >> >> ATM. >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Cheers, >> >>> >> >> Henry Conceição >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 1:41 AM, John Simons >> >>> >> >> <[email protected]> >> >>> >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >> > Yes that's right. >> >>> >> >> > But at the moment these integration projects are not separate >> and >> >>> >> >> > I >> >>> >> >> > think >> >>> >> >> > they need to be for this to work! >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> > Yes I agree, the integration projects need to stand on their >> own. >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> > John >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> > ________________________________ >> >>> >> >> > From: Krzysztof Koźmic <[email protected]> >> >>> >> >> > To: [email protected] >> >>> >> >> > Sent: Wed, 22 September, 2010 3:27:18 PM >> >>> >> >> > Subject: Re: Projects release saga >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> > John - I think the proposed solution some time ago was that >> >>> >> >> > whoever >> >>> >> >> > releases >> >>> >> >> > one of the major projects (Windsor, AR, MR) should also update >> >>> >> >> > integration >> >>> >> >> > projects for the other projects. >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> > As such I will look at updating MR integration and AR >> integration >> >>> >> >> > today. >> >>> >> >> > We >> >>> >> >> > should also make these projects more visible so that it's easy >> to >> >>> >> >> > find >> >>> >> >> > them >> >>> >> >> > when someone needs them. >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> > W dniu 22 września 2010 15:25 użytkownik Krzysztof Koźmic >> >>> >> >> > <[email protected]> napisał: >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> We should also have a serious look at automating as much of >> the >> >>> >> >> >> process >> >>> >> >> >> as >> >>> >> >> >> possible. It still is a PITA and requires too much manual >> error >> >>> >> >> >> prone >> >>> >> >> >> work. >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> 2010/9/22 Henry Conceição <[email protected]> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >>> That we not do an official release (branching, uploading >> >>> >> >> >>> packages, >> >>> >> >> >>> and >> >>> >> >> >>> the process that you described some time aga) for the small >> >>> >> >> >>> projects >> >>> >> >> >>> (validator, binder, etc). Just include the binaries on the >> >>> >> >> >>> Monorail >> >>> >> >> >>> package, and maybe pin the builds or create a branch. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >>> Cheers, >> >>> >> >> >>> Henry Conceição >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >>> 2010/9/22 Krzysztof Koźmic <[email protected]>: >> >>> >> >> >>> > What do you mean >> >>> >> >> >>> >> do we need to release the small projects? >> >>> >> >> >>> > >> >>> >> >> >>> > ? >> >>> >> >> >>> > >> >>> >> >> >>> > 2010/9/22 Henry Conceição <[email protected]> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> On the windsor release thread, John asked: >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> "Are all MR dependencies going to have an official >> release >> >>> >> >> >>> >> compiled >> >>> >> >> >>> >> against 2.5 ?" >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> I was thinking about that and another question came to >> me: >> >>> >> >> >>> >> do >> >>> >> >> >>> >> we >> >>> >> >> >>> >> need >> >>> >> >> >>> >> to release the small projects? 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