I've used these enough camping to know the valves don't always seal. 

Propane is heavier than air so a leak inside the boat would pool along the 
floor or bilge. It's a big enough danger that Magna even sells a rail hanging 
storage case for the cylinders for their rail hanging barbeque. Even the built 
in CNG systems (CNG is lighter than air) like the one on the C270 have 1) 
storage that vents overboard, a manual cut-off valve at the tank, and an 
electric cut-off valve at the tank controlled near the stove below.

Your results may vary, but Latitude 38 ran a story & photo a few years back on 
a boat in Sausalito that had a gas explosion. The skipper lived but the photo 
was crazy. The hull deck seam separated all the way around. The lifeline 
stanchions were mounted to the hull and stayed in place and the deck came to 
rest on top of them. It must have had a keel stepped mast with shrouds to the 
hull because the mast was still standing. The angle of the photo let you look 
through the lifelines under the deck to see more boats in the harbor behind 
him.  

The Origo 3000 replacement is a good safe replacement. We also have a parts 
link on the website for the Princes, which could be rebuilt to operate with 
reasonable safety the last time I checked.

Phil Agur                     s/v Wing Tip
Secretary,                    Call Sign WCW3485
IC27/270A                   MMSI 366901790 
www.catalina27.org    Vessel Doc# 1039809

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Oppenheimer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: catalina27-talk: Converting Princess stove to Propane


> Thanks Tim, and that was one of my real question. Are the small
> disposable 1 pound (440g) canisters safe when used appropriately?
> 
> I am stuck in a lake, so emptied a canister during a meal is just not a
> problem!
> 
> I was rather envious as the skipper used his modified princess stove and
> cooked two omelets at a time, one on each burner.
> 
> Our Catalina fleet http://catfleet69.org/page3.html has monthly day long
> raft-ups, where we generally all bring pot luck items for dinner. Being
> able to warm or cook something there would be nice.
> 
> I am looking at the Force 10 Model 60100
> http://www.force10.com/60100.html as another solution and wondering if
> it will fit and can be connected to a canister.
> 
> John
> 
> tim ford wrote:
>> Please forgive m7 insubordinate comment earlier.
>> 
>> As fas as Propane is concerned: I agree, a big propane tank below is an 
>> issue and should be avoided at all costs.
>> 
>> But those little 400 gram bernzomatic tanks you hook into a camp-style 
>> one-burner are not, in my opinion,
>> terribly dangerous when handled properly. Building a more stable base 
>> housing is also very easy: with just
>> a jig-saw and a round template and some plywood, you can make the thing 
>> almost impossible to tip over.
>> 
>> A helluva lot more reliable and convenient and at no real sacrifice to 
>> safety...plus they can be stowed easily and
>> the space-savings are nice.
>> 
>> I think the very first thing I told to take a hike was: my Princess.
>> 
>> tf
>> 
>>

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