Tom,

Spring time in Wisconsin, was it raining. If you have the 1" or 1 1/2" cockpit 
drains at the rear of the cockpit the caulking around the tubes can have a 
broken seal. Then it's 90% back to the lake and 10% for the boat. 

The tell for this and many other leaks is to draw a boundary line around the 
bilge (easier said than done) on the hull with a water soluble marker. You 
would also put one aft of your shaft seal. I prefer blue since I can live with 
a faint blue stain if it happens but pink from a red marker would bug me. Next 
time you check the boat if there's water in the bilge part of a blue line will 
be gone. From that you'll know the direction or if all the line is still there 
then a direction has been eliminated.

Actually any place there a seal the seal can fail but the cockpit drains is a 
good one for a high volume leak that's hard to find. It's just so far from the 
bilge and you can see the water exiting the boat so it looks fine.

We had a bad vacuum breaker on the raw water line between the pump and the heat 
exchanger. It never leaked when the engine was running. It leaked only after 
shut down and only the amount that represented the thermal expansion of the 
cold raw water coming up to running temp after it was stopped. When it did leak 
it trickled on a wiring loom and ran back to just forward of the shaft seal 
before dropping off. Not using the blue pen effectively got me a PSS Shaft seal 
before I found the vacuum breaker.

Phil Agur                     s/v Wing Tip
Secretary,                    Call Sign WCW3485
IC27/270A                   MMSI 366901790 
www.catalina27.org    Vessel Doc# 1039809

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tom Deters 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 2:38 PM
  Subject: Re: catalina27-talk: Re: Converting Princess stove(more 
deterioration)


  I am new to the Catalina owners club and as I recently purchased a 1986 27ft 
Tall Rig to sail out of Kenosha, Wisconsin. Over all very good condition, new 
head sail, low hours on the Universal, and very clean.

  I am perplexed by how 3 fingers of water gets into the bilge within 24 hours. 
My stuffing box is barely dripping and thru hulls are closed... Any thoughts?

  Also, If were to purchase a new main sail, what is the recommendation for 
cloth weight, batons and price and where to purchase? 

  T Deters


  On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 3:18 PM, James Calleran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

    tim ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
      The other day I mixed alcohol with Ginger Beer and it was v. dangerous.

      tf
      goslings 151
    Ah, yes, it was a "Dark and Stormy" night.

    jc
    black seal forever



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