As someone who has, twice within the last 2 weeks, had to admonish 2 separate parties for using my photographs without permission (and w/o crediting), I support asking Steve to go to the US Ailing website and asking US Ailing to sell him a copy!
Thanks for the clarification!!! tf > TF, > > C27 Polars are readily available from US Sail. They come somewhat > personalized and copyrighted with explicit instructions they cannot be > duplicated. I have a set and have made a couple attempts with US Sail to > get > permission to share them to no avail. I could ignore this and proceed > anyway > but I'd be eating into a US Sail revenue stream which is inconstant with > my > support of US Sail. > > Phil Agur s/v Wing Tip > Secretary, C270 LE #184 > IC27/270A MMSI 366901790 > www.catalina27.org Vessel Doc# 1039809 > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 9:15 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: catalina27-talk: Target speeds > > Wow, we have been dancing around that one, Steve. In all honesty, > I dont remember ever seeing polars for the C27....but I have a notoriously > bad memory. > > One thing about polars, at least the ones for some boats, is that they are > copyrighted and not for duplication unless a fee is paid...I dont know if > that's true for the C27 or not (but I can name a bunch of boats for which > is true!). > > Phil would know if they exist...also, it's possible that Carl S. had them > on his website way back when...I can check with Carl. > > BACK to the "targets" discussion, here is Dave Ullman's take on using > them, after he won the Melges 24 Worlds in 2007: > > "I'm a huge believer in sailing by the speedo and following my target > numbers. Without the speedo you're going to sail around three- or > four-tenths too slow all the time. Our target range is 5.8 to 6.0, so > let's say I'm sailing along and my target at the moment is 5.8. If I'm > sailing at 5.4, all I do is let the sheet out 2 inches and within 10 > seconds I'll be sailing at 5.8 again. You couldn't possibly do that > without a speedo. > > The key is you want to go as high as you can while keeping to that target > range. The goal is to steer the least amount possible. Just make the boat > go absolutely straight until you see a wave you can't get through. If you > have to go around a wave, look for the flattest place in the area and sail > through that." > > This (above) was taken off SW's website under an article: > http://www.sailingworld.com/from-the-experts/winners-debriefs/dave-ullman-me > lges-24-worlds-52932.html > > I'll get back to ya after checking with Carl. > > tf > > >> But again.... >> >> Anyone have any of these target speeds and/or polar charts available to >> them? That was my original question. At this point, it appears that I'm >> SOL. >> >> Steve Bayless >> #3491 "Liebchen" >> Port Huron, MI >> >> >> >> On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 10:31 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> hence my use of the words "mythical" and "targets" >>> >>> you should read Dave Ullman on targets if you think they are not >>> useful! >>> Literally >>> every big boat program I've sailed on uses them and I think the results >>> speak for >>> themselves! >>> >>> tf >>> >>> >>> > If you sail the boat to >>> > match polars you will not win many races. He did say that the pro >>> sailors >>> > sail to maybe 95% potential. >>> > >>> > Joe McCary >>> > Aeolus II, West River, MD #4795 >>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > On Behalf Of tim ford >>> > >>> > I think 90% of handicap racing is making the boat go as close to 100% >>> > optimum speed as close to 100% of the time as possible. Having >>> > targets and constantly trying to sail to them is vital toward getting >>> to >>> > that mythical 100/100 quotient....something only Terry Hutchinson >>> > seems capable of doing, these days.... >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >>> > signature >>> > database 3615 (20081115) __________ >>> > >>> > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>> > >>> > http://www.eset.com >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/porthuronfreecycle/ >> > > > > > >
