On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Lyle <[email protected]> wrote: > Kee Hinckley wrote: >> >> No argument there. I dearly wish the effort that had gone into Perl6 had >> gone into a Perl5 IDE and web framework with a single "best in class" set of >> options (with docs) to bring a new, non-perl, programmer up to a working web >> site the same way it's possible with Ruby. Elegance isn't worth a damn if >> nobody is using it. >> > > Perl 6 was/is the right thing to do. We can't keep bolting modern things > onto Perl 5, it just causes more issues like the performance things > mentioned in the start of this thread. > I wish a lot of this "modern perl 5" effort had gone towards Perl 6... But > like Lars pointed out, that's not how it works with volunteer time. > > I'm sure Perl 6 ports of Cat and Padre will follow it's release. >
Factually, this isn't correct (and is in fact the opposite). A lot of the perl6 work that has been brought into perl5 is available in 5.10.0+ as new features, which are *increasing* the speed of Moose/Class::MOP. Moose and Class::MOP are not Perl6. It brings some Perl6 features into Perl5, but that's not what it is for. Perl 5 runs now. It runs many, many businesses. Perl 5.10 is a backwards-compatible release that speeds up many improvements brought about by using Class::MOP and Moose, as well as added a wealth of new features. They are separate. They are not the same. To compare the efforts between the two, on a technical level, is like saying that you wish the momentum that Ruby had was instead placed in Perl6. Different things are different, just because there were Perl 5 hackers that moved on to work on Perl6 doesn't change that they are very different. The Perl6 hackers are language guys, loving to work on languages. The Perl 5 people are solving real world problems that you see on the CPAN. Both are absolutely necessary and very valuable to the community, but to confuse Perl6 as being a resource drain on Perl 5 (or in reverse) is misguided. They're both sharing work, and Perl 5 is improving from many angles. This thread has sure gone crazy... _______________________________________________ List: [email protected] Listinfo: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/catalyst Searchable archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Dev site: http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/
