You are right, it was at Van Dyne Spoor road. When I wrote Carncross road the 
image in my mind was of Van Dyne Spoor.  Anyway Carncross is not far from Van 
Dyne Spoor as Grebe flies.  Could be injured by variety of reasons, not only by 

Meena Haribal
Ithaca NY 14850

<> on behalf of Dave Nutter 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 4:50 AM
To: Meena Madhav Haribal
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Red-necked Grebe at Carncross road and Ravens at 
my house

I had heard, perhaps incorrectly, that Steve's group's Red-necked Grebe on the 
SFO Montezuma overnight trip was at Van Dyne Spoor Road. At any rate I did not 
see it then, and only found the one at Carncross Roat on 25 May which is when 
eBird reports for it start. I don't think it could've hidden at Carncross Road 
from eBird reporters for over a month, although maybe if it can fly and moved 
from the Morgan Road impoundment or Van Dyne Spoor Road it may have been able 
to remain undetected. I don't know if high waters would've allowed it to swim 
between those places, but I don't think it would've walked, as injured geese 
do. There's been a lot of migration lately, so I'm not convinced this late bird 
is such a long-term visitor or injured bird. Snow Geese, however, typically do 
stay over after being wounded by hunters, and the Snow Goose at Carncross, even 
though it can fly now, I would readily believe has convalesced locally. But I 
think grebes aren't supposed to be hunted and so I think they aren't as 
typically injured by hunters. That's my speculation.

--Dave Nutter

On May 29, 2014, at 08:49 PM, Meena Madhav Haribal <> wrote:

Hi all,

There was a Red-necked Grebe on April 13 2014 at Carncross road seen by Steve 
Kress's group. My group which went there five minutes later looked for it, at 
one point we thought we had it in the scope, but next moment it was gone. And 
we did not find it again.  After that on and off there have been a few reports 
of this grebe from the same location. So I think it is the same one for some 
reasons it is hanging around at Carncross. Perhaps some injury??

What do others think?

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