Hi,

  So all the keyboards are "real" US keyboards with the correct
layout, or still some sort of UK keyboard with US layout?
  I can understand the frustration. Been there, done that. Thats why
im very interested in this :)

Kim

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Michael Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
> All,
>
> I wrote an e-mail to Bruno today, and his reply both excites me, and also
> frustrates me deeper:
>
> He wrote that all keyboards in Brussels were changed to standard US layout
> the day following my lab because of the frequency of the request.
>
> Therefore, the issue is moot, but I can't help but wonder what would have
> been if I was there only a day later!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
>
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Hilton Woods <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Mike,
>>
>> Sorry to hear that you came so close to passing it. It would have been a
>> good idea using the asii notation e.g.
>>
>> Hold down ALT key and type 124 at the same time gives you |
>> Hold down ATL key and type 92 at the same time gives you \
>>
>> I wish you lots of luck on your second attempt. From the looks of things
>> you should pass it without any problem.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Hilton
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Michael Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Honestly I'm not sure what the other candidate's keyboards were like, as
>>> I
>>> didn't want to appear to cheat in any way. By the end of the day, I was
>>> so
>>> burnt out that my only thought was to go back to my hotel. I have e-mail
>>> addresses of some of the others, and might follow up to ask, though.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Kim Pedersen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> >  I thought they were all supposed to be US styles? Were all the
>>> > keyboards
>>> > like this?
>>> >
>>> > Kim
>>> >
>>> > On Apr 6, 2011, at 4:58 PM, Michael Miller wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Thanks to everyone for the advice,
>>> > >
>>> > > I'll report back on what I find out with regards to taking items into
>>> > > the
>>> > > lab...
>>> > >
>>> > > As for the keyboard layout, I took the exam in Brussels, and it was:
>>> > >
>>> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:KB_United_Kingdom.svg
>>> > >
>>> > > Unfortunately, in an effort to "Americanize" the layout, someone had
>>> > > reconfigured the keymap so that the @ was above the 2 and the " was
>>> > > above
>>> > > the '. My keyboard had a sticker for @ on the 2 key, but the one for
>>> > > the
>>> > "
>>> > > was either never put on, or it had fallen off. I had to ask the
>>> > > proctor
>>> > how
>>> > > to type it.
>>> > >
>>> > > Mike
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Nicolas MICHEL <[email protected]
>>> > >wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >> This is an example of the layout we will face in the lab right ?
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> http://www-old.oberon.ethz.ch/images/uskeyb.gif
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Thanks guys
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Yeah I d definitely schedule again. Glad to hear that the proctor
>>> > >> are
>>> > nice
>>> > >> in Brussels. Going for my lab in June
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> 2011/4/6 Tyson Scott <[email protected]>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>> Also go right away.  I remember when I did mine I scheduled 30 days
>>> > later
>>> > >>> which was as soon as I could go and I was glad I did.  Now if you
>>> > failed
>>> > >>> by
>>> > >>> a large margin I wouldn't give the same advice, but if you felt
>>> > >>> comfortable
>>> > >>> then go right away.  If you were struggling then spend some more
>>> > >>> time
>>> > >>> studying.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Regards,
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Tyson Scott - CCIE #13513 R&S, Security, and SP
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>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
>>> > >>> From: [email protected]
>>> > >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael
>>> > Miller
>>> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 5:54 AM
>>> > >>> To: [email protected]
>>> > >>> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Failed First Attempt / Advice Needed
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Guys,
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> I took the lab yesterday in Brussels. I passed the configuration
>>> > section,
>>> > >>> but failed the TS by one ticket as far as I can tell. When I walked
>>> > >>> out
>>> > of
>>> > >>> the exam, I felt that I had surely passed the configuration, but I
>>> > >>> felt
>>> > >>> that
>>> > >>> I had only solved eight tickets in TS.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> In my score report I noticed that I have the option for a rescore,
>>> > >>> but
>>> > >>> seeing that it was the TS section that I failed, Is it even worth
>>> > >>> it?
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> I felt that a few factors contributed to me struggling with the
>>> > tickets:
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> 1) The keyboard was quite different from the standard US layout.
>>> > >>> Many
>>> > >>> crucial keys including the pipe and double quote were either in
>>> > different
>>> > >>> locations, or not even labeled. The proctor was able to help me
>>> > >>> through
>>> > >>> this, but I must have hit the \ key instead of enter fifty times in
>>> > that
>>> > >>> section alone.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> 2) Stress / Nerves - It was my first attempt at any CCIE lab. My
>>> > thought
>>> > >>> processes were in panic mode for probably the first ten minutes of
>>> > >>> the
>>> > >>> test.
>>> > >>> It wasn't until the afternoon that I really felt comfortable in the
>>> > lab.
>>> > >>> The
>>> > >>> fact that I seemingly couldn't type some of the most basic commands
>>> > (show
>>> > >>> run | i ...) due to the strange location of the pipe only
>>> > >>> compounded
>>> > this.
>>> > >>> The problem wasn't that I couldn't find the key, but that I kept
>>> > >>> instinctively reaching to the wrong position.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> With all of that in mind, I'm wondering if I should schedule my
>>> > >>> next
>>> > >>> attempt
>>> > >>> right away, or if I should wait and study?
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> My feeling is that I should probably brush up on my troubleshooting
>>> > >>> methods
>>> > >>> based on what I saw in the exam, but I feel like I should be able
>>> > >>> to do
>>> > >>> that
>>> > >>> within the month that I have to wait.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> A few final notes: The DOC-CD was incredibly fast in my lab. I
>>> > >>> didn't
>>> > >>> attempt to open any PDFs, but I felt that surfing it was just like
>>> > >>> when
>>> > I
>>> > >>> was home. I didn't refer to it once, but at the start of the
>>> > configuration
>>> > >>> section I opened up a few pages for later reference. I would
>>> > >>> suggest
>>> > >>> that candidates learn the hot-keys to open links in new tabs and
>>> > windows
>>> > >>> in
>>> > >>> IE. The task bar can get cluttered, so being able to open a tab
>>> > >>> saved
>>> > me
>>> > >>> space.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> I can't recall the proctors name at the moment, but I would say he
>>> > >>> was
>>> > >>> incredibly nice. I asked him several questions during the config
>>> > section,
>>> > >>> and he did his best to answer them when possible. I would say that
>>> > >>> the
>>> > >>> advice to explain the technology help me, because I found he was
>>> > >>> much
>>> > more
>>> > >>> willing to discuss the task when he felt I was only attempting to
>>> > clarify
>>> > >>> the wording. In fact, he had to check the answer key for one
>>> > >>> section,
>>> > >>> because there was a task that was clearly contradictory.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> In any case, any feedback would be appreciated!
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Mike
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>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> --
>>> > >> Nicolas MICHEL
>>> > >> Ingenieur Réseaux et Securité (CCNA/CCNP)
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
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>>> >
>>> >
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