I had the same problem with keyboards in Brussels, but after I failed my first attempt I practice only with a UK keyboard and everything was alright.
Nonetheless, is good to know that they replaced their keyboards. Good luck with your studies. Regards, On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Nicolas MICHEL <[email protected]>wrote: > Cmon guy .... let's be serious ... > > What If I want to bring my 2x27" screen just to have more space for the > diagram ? > > > > 2011/4/7 Liqua <[email protected]> > > > Would you mind asking at the same time if its ok to bring our own > keyboard > > if, say, we were to leave them behind after ? > > > > I am used to working on a UAE keyboard now, but come from the UK, and I > > think a USA one would just confuse ;-) > > > > Liq. > > > > --- On Thu, 7/4/11, Michael Miller <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > From: Michael Miller <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Failed First Attempt / Advice Needed > > To: "Kim Pedersen" <[email protected]> > > Cc: [email protected] > > Date: Thursday, 7 April, 2011, 10:07 > > > > > > I will clarify to be sure, but he said that many people had complained, > and > > that they were switched to US keyboards. > > > > On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Kim Pedersen <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > So all the keyboards are "real" US keyboards with the correct > > > layout, or still some sort of UK keyboard with US layout? > > > I can understand the frustration. Been there, done that. Thats why > > > im very interested in this :) > > > > > > Kim > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Michael Miller <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > All, > > > > > > > > I wrote an e-mail to Bruno today, and his reply both excites me, and > > also > > > > frustrates me deeper: > > > > > > > > He wrote that all keyboards in Brussels were changed to standard US > > > layout > > > > the day following my lab because of the frequency of the request. > > > > > > > > Therefore, the issue is moot, but I can't help but wonder what would > > have > > > > been if I was there only a day later! > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Hilton Woods <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >> Mike, > > > >> > > > >> Sorry to hear that you came so close to passing it. It would have > been > > a > > > >> good idea using the asii notation e.g. > > > >> > > > >> Hold down ALT key and type 124 at the same time gives you | > > > >> Hold down ATL key and type 92 at the same time gives you \ > > > >> > > > >> I wish you lots of luck on your second attempt. From the looks of > > things > > > >> you should pass it without any problem. > > > >> > > > >> Best regards, > > > >> > > > >> Hilton > > > >> > > > >> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Michael Miller <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> Honestly I'm not sure what the other candidate's keyboards were > like, > > > as > > > >>> I > > > >>> didn't want to appear to cheat in any way. By the end of the day, I > > was > > > >>> so > > > >>> burnt out that my only thought was to go back to my hotel. I have > > > e-mail > > > >>> addresses of some of the others, and might follow up to ask, > though. > > > >>> > > > >>> Thanks, > > > >>> > > > >>> Mike > > > >>> > > > >>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Kim Pedersen <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> > Hi, > > > >>> > > > > >>> > I thought they were all supposed to be US styles? Were all the > > > >>> > keyboards > > > >>> > like this? > > > >>> > > > > >>> > Kim > > > >>> > > > > >>> > On Apr 6, 2011, at 4:58 PM, Michael Miller wrote: > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > Thanks to everyone for the advice, > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > I'll report back on what I find out with regards to taking > items > > > into > > > >>> > > the > > > >>> > > lab... > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > As for the keyboard layout, I took the exam in Brussels, and it > > > was: > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:KB_United_Kingdom.svg > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > Unfortunately, in an effort to "Americanize" the layout, > someone > > > had > > > >>> > > reconfigured the keymap so that the @ was above the 2 and the " > > was > > > >>> > > above > > > >>> > > the '. My keyboard had a sticker for @ on the 2 key, but the > one > > > for > > > >>> > > the > > > >>> > " > > > >>> > > was either never put on, or it had fallen off. I had to ask the > > > >>> > > proctor > > > >>> > how > > > >>> > > to type it. > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > Mike > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Nicolas MICHEL < > > > [email protected] > > > >>> > >wrote: > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > >> This is an example of the layout we will face in the lab right > ? > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > >> http://www-old.oberon.ethz.ch/images/uskeyb.gif > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > >> Thanks guys > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > >> Yeah I d definitely schedule again. Glad to hear that the > > proctor > > > >>> > >> are > > > >>> > nice > > > >>> > >> in Brussels. Going for my lab in June > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > >> 2011/4/6 Tyson Scott <[email protected]> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > >>> Also go right away. I remember when I did mine I scheduled > 30 > > > days > > > >>> > later > > > >>> > >>> which was as soon as I could go and I was glad I did. Now if > > you > > > >>> > failed > > > >>> > >>> by > > > >>> > >>> a large margin I wouldn't give the same advice, but if you > felt > > > >>> > >>> comfortable > > > >>> > >>> then go right away. If you were struggling then spend some > > more > > > >>> > >>> time > > > >>> > >>> studying. > > > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> Regards, > > > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> Tyson Scott - CCIE #13513 R&S, Security, and SP > > > >>> > >>> Managing Partner / Sr. Instructor - IPexpert, Inc. > > > >>> > >>> Mailto: [email protected] > > > >>> > >>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444, ext. 208 > > > >>> > >>> Live Assistance, Please visit: www.ipexpert.com/chat > > > >>> > >>> eFax: +1.810.454.0130 > > > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> IPexpert is a premier provider of Self-Study Workbooks, Video > > on > > > >>> > Demand, > > > >>> > >>> Audio Tools, Online Hardware Rental and Classroom Training > for > > > the > > > >>> > Cisco > > > >>> > >>> CCIE (R&S, Voice, Security & Service Provider) > certification(s) > > > >>> > >>> with > > > >>> > >>> training locations throughout the United States, Europe, > South > > > Asia > > > >>> > >>> and > > > >>> > >>> Australia. Be sure to visit our online communities at > > > >>> > >>> www.ipexpert.com/communities and our public website at > > > >>> > www.ipexpert.com > > > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > > > >>> > >>> From: [email protected] > > > >>> > >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > > > Michael > > > >>> > Miller > > > >>> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 5:54 AM > > > >>> > >>> To: [email protected] > > > >>> > >>> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Failed First Attempt / Advice Needed > > > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> Guys, > > > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> I took the lab yesterday in Brussels. I passed the > > configuration > > > >>> > section, > > > >>> > >>> but failed the TS by one ticket as far as I can tell. When I > > > walked > > > >>> > >>> out > > > >>> > of > > > >>> > >>> the exam, I felt that I had surely passed the configuration, > > but > > > I > > > >>> > >>> felt > > > >>> > >>> that > > > >>> > >>> I had only solved eight tickets in TS. > > > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> In my score report I noticed that I have the option for a > > > rescore, > > > >>> > >>> but > > > >>> > >>> seeing that it was the TS section that I failed, Is it even > > worth > > > >>> > >>> it? > > > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> I felt that a few factors contributed to me struggling with > the > > > >>> > tickets: > > > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> 1) The keyboard was quite different from the standard US > > layout. > > > >>> > >>> Many > > > >>> > >>> crucial keys including the pipe and double quote were either > in > > > >>> > different > > > >>> > >>> locations, or not even labeled. The proctor was able to help > me > > > >>> > >>> through > > > >>> > >>> this, but I must have hit the \ key instead of enter fifty > > times > > > in > > > >>> > that > > > >>> > >>> section alone. > > > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> 2) Stress / Nerves - It was my first attempt at any CCIE lab. > > My > > > >>> > thought > > > >>> > >>> processes were in panic mode for probably the first ten > minutes > > > of > > > >>> > >>> the > > > >>> > >>> test. > > > >>> > >>> It wasn't until the afternoon that I really felt comfortable > in > > > the > > > >>> > lab. > > > >>> > >>> The > > > >>> > >>> fact that I seemingly couldn't type some of the most basic > > > commands > > > >>> > (show > > > >>> > >>> run | i ...) due to the strange location of the pipe only > > > >>> > >>> compounded > > > >>> > this. > > > >>> > >>> The problem wasn't that I couldn't find the key, but that I > > kept > > > >>> > >>> instinctively reaching to the wrong position. > > > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> With all of that in mind, I'm wondering if I should schedule > my > > > >>> > >>> next > > > >>> > >>> attempt > > > >>> > >>> right away, or if I should wait and study? > > > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> My feeling is that I should probably brush up on my > > > troubleshooting > > > >>> > >>> methods > > > >>> > >>> based on what I saw in the exam, but I feel like I should be > > able > > > >>> > >>> to do > > > >>> > >>> that > > > >>> > >>> within the month that I have to wait. > > > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> A few final notes: The DOC-CD was incredibly fast in my lab. > I > > > >>> > >>> didn't > > > >>> > >>> attempt to open any PDFs, but I felt that surfing it was just > > > like > > > >>> > >>> when > > > >>> > I > > > >>> > >>> was home. I didn't refer to it once, but at the start of the > > > >>> > configuration > > > >>> > >>> section I opened up a few pages for later reference. I would > > > >>> > >>> suggest > > > >>> > >>> that candidates learn the hot-keys to open links in new tabs > > and > > > >>> > windows > > > >>> > >>> in > > > >>> > >>> IE. The task bar can get cluttered, so being able to open a > tab > > > >>> > >>> saved > > > >>> > me > > > >>> > >>> space. > > > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> I can't recall the proctors name at the moment, but I would > say > > > he > > > >>> > >>> was > > > >>> > >>> incredibly nice. I asked him several questions during the > > config > > > >>> > section, > > > >>> > >>> and he did his best to answer them when possible. I would say > > > that > > > >>> > >>> the > > > >>> > >>> advice to explain the technology help me, because I found he > > was > > > >>> > >>> much > > > >>> > more > > > >>> > >>> willing to discuss the task when he felt I was only > attempting > > to > > > >>> > clarify > > > >>> > >>> the wording. In fact, he had to check the answer key for one > > > >>> > >>> section, > > > >>> > >>> because there was a task that was clearly contradictory. > > > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> In any case, any feedback would be appreciated! > > > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> Mike > > > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > > > >>> > >>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab > > > training, > > > >>> > please > > > >>> > >>> visit www.ipexpert.com > > > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > > > >>> > >>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab > > > training, > > > >>> > please > > > >>> > >>> visit www.ipexpert.com > > > >>> > >>> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > >> -- > > > >>> > >> Nicolas MICHEL > > > >>> > >> Ingenieur Réseaux et Securité (CCNA/CCNP) > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > >> > > > >>> > > _______________________________________________ > > > >>> > > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab > > training, > > > >>> > > please > > > >>> > visit www.ipexpert.com > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > // Freedom Matters > > > >>> > Follow my CCIE progress on: http://kpjungle.wordpress.com > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > > >>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, > > > please > > > >>> visit www.ipexpert.com > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > // Freedom Matters > > > // Follow my progress on http://kpjungle.wordpress.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > > visit www.ipexpert.com > > _______________________________________________ > > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > > visit www.ipexpert.com > > > > > > -- > Nicolas MICHEL > Ingenieur Réseaux et Securité (CCNA/CCNP) > _______________________________________________ > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please > visit www.ipexpert.com > -- Rares Donca CCIE #28430 (R&S) _______________________________________________ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com
