Hi

If the sensor needs to bridge traffic from one vlan to other vlan then it
should do either inter vlan routing (having routng intelligence) or be
a dummy device like a hub.

I am aware that switches like 3550/3560 can also do inter-vlan routing
without the need of a router. Does the sensor also do the same? But that is
not possible without a routing vlan interface.


As per my understanding sensor can either be just as a dummy device as a hub
and transmit traffic with inline pair mode. If sensor needs to inspect trunk
traffic, the we need configure the trunking sub-interface and use vlan
groups.


The following are the cases, where sensor will bridge between two vlans.


   1. Configure a sensor interface in inline vlan pair mode and connect the
   switch interface as trunk.The switch bridges between two vlans.
   2. Configure a sensor in inline interface pair mode and connect two
   interfaces (access mode) of same switch with two different vlans. The switch
   bridges between two vlans.
   3. Configure a sensor in inline interface pair mode and connect two
   interfaces (access mode) of two different switch with two different vlans.
   The switch bridges between two vlans.
   4. Configure a sensor in inline interface pair mode and connect two
   interfaces (trunk mode) of two different switch with multiple vlans. The
   switch bridges between all vlans.vlan groups can be used with different
   virtual sensors.

For the 2nd and 3rd case, the sensor will act just like an hub. It is an
usual deployment, where sensor is just placed in between.

For the 4th case, the sensor act like a trunking pipe. It is an usual
deployment, where sensor is just placed in between.

I have the following questions for 1st case with inline apri mode:


   - It acts as a vlan bridge between same subnet between two vlans. This is
   not an usual deployment. Where will actually inline vlan pair be used?
   - Also based on which criteria does the sensor bridge the vlan ids. How
   does the sensor bridge between vlans. Or does it bridge/swap all trunk
   packets coming with VLAN ID configured in the vlan pair?







With regards
Kings


On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Tyson Scott <[email protected]> wrote:

>  Kingsley,
>
>
>
> It is possible to bridge two disparate networks together using inline pair
> or vlan pair.  The problem is not the IPS it would be the two devices on
> each side.  They will have no idea how to communicate with each other as
> they are on separate networks.
>
>
>
> So although the IPS could technically do it no traffic is going to flow
> thru the IPS because routing requires communication from end to end.
>
>
>
> Regards,
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> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Kingsley Charles
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 29, 2009 7:20 AM
> *To:* Stuart Hare
>  *Cc:* [email protected]
>
> *Subject:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_Security] IPS Sensor inter vlan pair mode with
> vlans in different subnet
>
>
>
> Hi Stu
>
>
>
> In most of the cases, each vlan has it's own subnet. Sensor interface
> supports 802.1q trunking but doesn't support interface vlan routing.
>
>
>
> I think, the limitation of not having inter vlan routing prevents bridging
> with routing of vlans with different subnets.
>
>
>
> In the case of inline vlan pair mode, how does the sensor decide/know which
> packet that it needs to bridge between the vlan pairs.
>
>
>
>
>
> With regards
>
> Kings
>
> On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Stuart Hare <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Kings
>
>
>
> This is where u would use inline interface pairs instead of vlan pairs. Set
> up the switchports as access to ur respective  vlans and assign both of the
> interfaces to a single inline pair.
>
>
>
> Hth
>
> Stu
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 29 Aug 2009, at 10:14, Kingsley Charles <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>  Hi all
>
>
>
> IPS Sensor supports inter vlan pair mode with interface in the trunking
> mode. The sensor actually bridges i.e., swaps the vlan id of the incoming
> frame. Here, should both VLANs should be in same subnet.
>
> Can the VLAN be in different subnets?
>
> VLAN A - 10.20.30.0/24
>
> VLAN B - 10.30.20.0/24
>
> Can the sensor's interface be configured in inline vlan pair mode between
> vlan A and B?
>
>
>
>
>
> With regards
>
> Kings
>
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